Have you ever used anabolic steroids?

fleXodus · #1 March 3rd, 2003, 06:03 PM

Have you ever used anabolic steroids?

What were the results like? How much muscle & strength did you gain? Any side effects? Would you do it again?

Answer the poll question and post your comments here.

beefmonster · #2 March 3rd, 2003, 06:14 PM

I did a cycle last year that consisted of T, D, Win and P. My gains were to say...FANTASTIC. I was able to gain considerable size and stay lean. I have kept the muscle and will do another cycle in 2 weeks. I will talk to people, one on one, if they want to know more details about my experience.

hulkmuscle · #3 March 4th, 2003, 08:56 PM

it's an individual thing i think, depending on what your goals are.

The Magus · #4 March 5th, 2003, 12:09 AM

I haven't tried them, but it's a possibility in the future. I've only been serious about working out for 7 months, so I figure I'll see where I am after a year or so. Right now, though, since I'm on the beginner's curve, I'm finding that I change from week to week, so Roids would just be redundant.

ILRower · #5 March 5th, 2003, 11:26 AM

Never used them...always been curious about them and how they work, but don't know anyone really how and where to get and use some.

muscle_d_2000 · #6 March 5th, 2003, 11:59 AM

Just a couple of weeks into my first cycle using T and D and already feeling and seeing some effects. Going to do 8 weeks and then take a break. Would like to talk to others about their programs and results.

msclangel · #7 March 6th, 2003, 04:09 AM

Im doing a research paper on the effect of steroids on the brain. Really, long term effects include atrophy and the diuretic effect of steroids make ur abs harder to see, hence the "roid rage".
as for mental problems, steroid rages, that is, a swinging mood happens to lead to rougher sex, and possibly death. pretty sick
if u are on steroids, dont overdo it!

atrophy=shrinking of testicles (due to the diuretic effects of steroids too..)

msclangel · #8 March 6th, 2003, 04:10 AM

i meant "roid gut"

muscle_d_2000 · #9 March 6th, 2003, 11:55 AM

I don't disagree that steroids can be harmful but any chemical can cause adverse effects if the dose is too high. My choice was to do a light cycle after reviewing the available literature. My goals aren't that ambitious given that I'm starting my first cycle at 230 lbs, 6'2" 50c34w18a. I just want to be a little bigger. Two week into it I'm already seeing results, I'm stronger and while I haven't measured anything, my clothes are feeling a little tighter.

arpeejay · #10 March 6th, 2003, 07:27 PM

To quote myself:

"We want PIX, dammit!"

:-)

xoxo

richard = rpj = arpeejay

ILRower · #11 March 25th, 2003, 07:37 PM

Wondering if anyone has heard of the "Steroid Calculator"
and where is it can't seem to find the website anymore.

But any feedback if anyone has used it?

hulkmuscle · #12 March 25th, 2003, 08:50 PM

what is it, IL?

ILRower · #13 March 25th, 2003, 09:09 PM

Basically what it is from what i understand it's suppose to help you gauge how much and when to take your steroids

buffdoc · #14 March 28th, 2003, 06:47 PM

I am currently on my second cycle. Trust me, if done properly, no one just does one cycle. I started out as the typical ectomorph--tall and skinny. I always had envied guys that just seemed to be built like a sh*t-brickhouse and didn't seem to have to work for it.

I decided I wanted to bulk up. I figured with the right motivation, right equipment, and right diet, I could get buff too. I bought the required supplements and put the hard core time in the gym. I did get some results--my strength really improved and I added a few pounds of muscle. However, I didn't look anything like the international male catalog models.

Then, by accident, I was wandering through the clearance section of a local bookstore and stumbled upon a book entitled the Adonis Complex. It's a great read and definitively pick up a copy before hitting the juice. The book is actually anti-steroids but paradoxically convinced me to try them. The book analyzes popular male images of beauty and shows that the vast majority are only attainable though the use of anabolic steroids. It shows pictures of how the male body ideal has become increasingly muscular over the last three decades and contrasts non-steroid and steroid enhanced body types. The central thesis is that steroid enhanced physiques are so pervasive in the media that they are perceived by most people as completely normal and par for the course. Yep, the strengthnet.com men, RealMenRealWorkouts.com guys, and all those so-called teen muscle studs that you see on the web are in fact all juiced up.

So I obtained steroids (aka gear) and got myself juiced up. The effect was dramatic and psychologically mind blowing. I've gained over 40 pounds from my start weight, 30 of which are high quality lean muscle over two cycles. I added 4 inches to my biceps, developed some great looking pecs, packed on some mass on my thighs, and went up two dress shirt sizes. My favorite muscle group is my traps/neck area which has gotten real thick and very jock-like. This has been accomplished using what many would consider a light dose stack. My libido is amazing and I have had some of the best sex in my entire life.

Granted, I am not yet at my ideal. I am 6"2' so I don't look huge. I want to add a more size to my biceps, improve my triceps, and broaden my lats--I've been hitting those hard and have been making good progress. My midsection needs the most work. I plan to get ripped in the future with a cutting cycle.

Overall, anabolic steroids have really transformed my body but they also bring other intangible benefits. I was at the supermarket the other day in a simple white t-shirt and was unloading my cart. The check-out person was really into my body and just kept obviously staring at my pumped up arms. I didn't acknowledge the interest, but it is a truly great feeling to be perceived as a muscular stud.

fleXodus · #15 March 28th, 2003, 10:22 PM

Heya Buffdoc,

Thanks for sharing your own steroid experience. Just curious -- How long did you train naturally before you decided to start juicing? How long did your first two cycles last and what were the results on each like?

- flex

arpeejay · #16 March 29th, 2003, 04:59 AM

As usual:

"Pix, dammit, pix!"

rpj

hulkmuscle · #17 March 30th, 2003, 07:22 AM

in response to buffdoc, i can sympathize. 135 lbs of skin and bones in college, made it to 165 for a long time and now 210 of fairly good quality muscle.

i should look up my old stats sometime. i know my arms used to be around 12 or so, and they're 16 now. my chest was 36-37, and now 45.5.

nowhere near done either.

lucas · #18 April 2nd, 2003, 09:32 AM

Just love them. If possible I would be on them 24/7.
Gained almost 26 lbs., but I'm short, so at 5'4" and at 181 lbs right now, I'm happy.The only thing is the acne on my back. It goes away, but the little brown dots remain....

biguglymofo · #19 April 17th, 2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by msclangel
Im doing a research paper on the effect of steroids on the brain. Really, long term effects include atrophy and the diuretic effect of steroids make ur abs harder to see, hence the "roid rage".
as for mental problems, steroid rages, that is, a swinging mood happens to lead to rougher sex, and possibly death. pretty sick
if u are on steroids, dont overdo it!

atrophy=shrinking of testicles (due to the diuretic effects of steroids too..)

As I understand it a lot of the side effects of using anabolic steroids come from the stimulation of estrogen as a regulatory side effect of exogenous testosterone. This results in a shut down of natural testosterone production...hence the testicular atrophy. This is not caused by the diuretic effect of steroids. The roid gut occurs in individuals who use HGH. HGH can cause the enlargement of your internal organs, so your gut appears to bulge out. Think Ronnie Coleman in the last olympia.

lucas · #20 April 18th, 2003, 10:45 AM

May be the side effects are true, but those are extreme cases. Anyway, wouldn't you love to look like Ronnie Coleman, even though you might have those side effects? I do, anyway, better enjoy a short life, than a long boring one...

fleXodus · #21 April 18th, 2003, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lucas
May be the side effects are true, but those are extreme cases. Anyway, wouldn't you love to look like Ronnie Coleman, even though you might have those side effects? I do, anyway, better enjoy a short life, than a long boring one...

Yep, as with other things in life, it's a decision and calculated risk that's personal to each of us. I say people should do what they wish, so long as they're educated about it.

- flex

brent · #22 April 18th, 2003, 09:46 PM

I agree people should be able to do what they want, as long as they understand the consequences. In my opinion, it's a crock of sheit that anabolic steriods are illegal. I also agree that it's better to have a short, fun life, than a long dull one, but what if you live a long life anyway? What if it's long, and you have some hideous problem from anabolics? That's what scares me.
I think all drugs should be legal. However, most people don't seem to think of ALL the concequences, short and long term.
That said, tell us how it goes. I really am currious. Good luck.

beefmonster · #23 April 19th, 2003, 05:41 AM

I agree with Brent and Flex about steroid use being a personal choice as well as making them legal. What I have researched concerning the long terms effects are the usual liver damage/kidney, high blood pressure, enlarged heart etc. BUT that is when the drugs are abused. When I decided to use them, I spoke to my doctor (who asked me to leave), then to another (who refused to continue the discussion) to finally finding a doctor who would monitor my health.....blood test, blood pressure, chekcing the liver/kidneys......I decided that I would do it with care and of course, fiding out all I could about how to cycle, how to stack, how long, needles....food intake, training and rest. I know there are people who feel this is cheating....I do not agree, I am only speeding up the process, that would otherwise have taken me a few more years......I built my body up naturally, by training hard and eating right. I started my first cycle 3 years ago and I do not regret it. Oh yeah, I know I am going on, but I am smart when I do it......only 2 cycles a year.....10-12 weeks each...it works as long as you do your homework and get over the fact that they are bad for you....you don't mind eating all that so called processed crap they sell you at the store, that is labeled food?! It is a personal choice...please do not judge those who use them without getting all of your facts straight.

PS...Hi Massing Up

polomuscle · #24 May 9th, 2003, 10:01 PM

i agree that it is a personal choice. and i choose to do it. unfortunately, i have NO CLUE where to get them! so it looks like i'm just stuck with creatine, protein, and punishing workouts!

polomuscle · #25 May 29th, 2003, 09:32 AM

Hey guys, I just got a legal supplement called MAG 10 and am trying it now.
Can any of you tell me your experience with this stuff?
It's a new class of prohormones that is supposed to have extremely anabolic effects. Like, "7 more times anabolic" than primo. I read an article in the Washington Post (i.e. NOT a supplement advertisement) which basically said that this stuff should be totally illegal because it converts so efficiently to have an anabolic effect. It's about $50 for a 2-week cycle. I'm eating, lifting hard, taking creatine (which I've not taken for a year), and taking this stuff, which contains 1-testosterone, and another prohormone...
will let you know my results!

p.s. maybe it's just psychological but it is making me very horny...

brent · #26 June 1st, 2003, 10:39 PM

Polodude, I hope the Mag10 works great. Unfortunately, I've never heard of it. I hope you'll update us in a couple weeks, with before & after pics.

Speaking of pics, when are you planning on posting some? Most all of us have posted some on one thread, or another, but I haven't seen yours. You usaly have good advice, and seem expirienced at lifting, so I bet they are better than you think they are. At any rate, I think we all deserve to at least see you in a POLO!!!

I'll think good thoughts about your guns swelling huge w/ Mag10. :P
Brent.

brent · #27 June 15th, 2003, 10:20 AM

Alright polodude, how did the Mag10 go? Is it worth using? Do you feel/ look diffrent? I hope it went well & you will reply.

Thanx, Brent.

polomuscle · #28 June 16th, 2003, 05:12 PM

Ok,
I would have to say the mag-10 definitely worked. I was 173 and am now 179 or 180. I added a little bodyfat but added decent muscle too. You have to eat eat eat on that stuff. High quality protein
The product made me horny most of the time. In terms of the gym--you have to train very seriously or you lose the potency of the product.
Since I've been off it I feel slightly "deflated" but I don't expect to lose too many gains. I just don't have that super-pumped feeling I had (Esp the 1st week on mag-10). I was very, very hard and swollen with muscle.
My suggestion is that you do not use the product. You can make gains naturally. BUT if you are going to be doing a 2-3 week blitz anyway, where you eat a lot, take creatine, and lift very heavy, and are super-disciplined about your diet and exercise, then use the product, as motivation and to add that extra pump.
I'm not sure I would do it again.
p.d.

brent · #29 June 16th, 2003, 11:55 PM

3+ lbs per week isn't bad at all. Probably not quite worth the cost, but I'm sure their are lots of people that would love those gains. However, I was hoping you'd report back with massive gains. Something like, "Man, this Mag10 stuff made my muscles swell-up so quickly that I can't fit into my beloved polos anymore... Forcing an emergency Gap-run!" OK, maybe that was not very realistic, but why not think positively? It still sounds like you did well, I think a pump like that would be motivating on its own. The only problem would be getting any sleep if it makes you that horny!

I barely sleep as it is, and I don't use supps like that, so I don't know how smart it would be!

Take care, Brent.

polomuscle · #30 June 17th, 2003, 07:47 AM

alas...there is no substitute for hard work and proper diet.

as for getting sleep... i have no trouble sleeping. it's waking up that gets me!!!

brent · #31 June 17th, 2003, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polodude
alas...there is no substitute for hard work and proper diet.

as for getting sleep... i have no trouble sleeping. it's waking up that gets me!!!

I keep wishing for a substitute, but then I guess big beefy men wouldn't be so special if that happened. Wait, what the hell did I just say??? Scratch that, I mean it wouldn't be such a special moment when I find one (since that would then be all the time...) or something like that. I keep hoping for a compound like all the stories here talk about.

As for sleeping, I've always had insomnia, but when I workout I seem to get horny in the middle of the night. That makes a bad situation woarse. Plus my partner is almost narcaleptic, and can sleep standing-up, so there isn't much I can do about it.

Hopefuly one of us wil find "HugeneX" one day. 'Till then, I'll keep up on that hard-work thing...

muscledude49 · #32 September 1st, 2003, 09:32 PM

I too have never used, but had fairly good results going natural. I too don't know where to find them and would like to go at least 2 cycles to see what they do. How do you find them?

Jim

Buffpussy · #33 May 20th, 2004, 07:36 PM

Hey Guy,

I've wanted to try a steroid cycle for several years now but a combination of lack of info and lack of it's availability always deterred me. Would like to know more about the 4 supplements you took, why you chose them and your long range plans etc. I would really appreciate any info/guidence you can provide. My email address is: [email protected].

Thanks

Notbigenuff · #34 May 20th, 2004, 08:00 PM

Buffpussy,
I've on occasion wondered about taking steroids myself and have pretty much decided that it just ain't going to happen. Not so much out of any "moral" position or a sense of avoiding doing anything illegal. It's mostly because since 'roids are illegal, when you get your hands on some (however that happens) how do you know that they are real? There's no independent lab testing, etc.

However, if I knew that I had the real stuff...well, I guess I would cross that bridge when I came to it.

slaphappystanly · #35 May 21st, 2004, 04:56 PM

yeah, like most of the guy's on here i think i'de do them but only if i knew where to get them and had the right information. I think i'de have to know that i'de pushed myself as far as i could possibly go naturally before doing any.
But the thought alone keeps me awake.

glammaman2000 · #36 May 21st, 2004, 08:21 PM

...then forget it.i tried steroids,about*^$$$^^%%^years ago.twice.they depressed me so badly that i didn't want to work out!so what's the point?people underestimate the psychological effects.MOST guys i know who use'roids are vaguely crabby&miserable.i know one guy,sweetest kid,who lost his job because he got into a fight with his boss during a cycle.some people take to them like a duck to water.as someone said before,this is not a moral issue.if they worked for me,i'd be taking them by the fistful!but be careful...

Notbigenuff · #37 May 21st, 2004, 09:44 PM

Glammaman2000, thanks for posting your experience. I had heard that some steroids caused mood shifts, but didn't really know if it was true or part of the anti-steroid propaganda. I agree that it's not really a moral issue, but it is best if everyone who thinks of trying any new chemical, drug, etc. understands all the possibilities before getting into it.

glammaman2000 · #38 May 22nd, 2004, 06:03 PM

...my experience has been that guys that use steroids look worse when they're off them than they would if they had never used them.

Notbigenuff · #39 May 22nd, 2004, 07:50 PM

Glammaman2000, that's an interesting observation (that guys who use steriods look worse when off them than if they never used them). I wonder if this is true in all or most cases and what the reason for this might be. I imagine it has to do with the body shutting down it's own natural manufacturing of the steroids taken and it might take time for the natural body production to kick back in.

ethernet_jock · #40 May 24th, 2004, 02:34 PM

just a little note on this topic re: steroids and psychological impact...

Most guys do seem to do "just fine" but there are more exceptions than you might think. I did one cycle of a 1-test/4ad combo gel about 2 years ago and I'd never been more depressed or irritable. It's true, I got so depressed that I didn't even want to work out towards the end. Horrible and that wasn't even *real* steroids. It worked, sure, but not all THAT well and really not worth it IMHO.

On another note I used to have a friend with GREAT natural muscle development, a superb down-to-earth attitude, and the nicest boyfriend in the world (no, the boyfriend wasn't me). He got started with the *real* stuff and got SUPER buff after about 1.5 years and now literally does gay porn movies and photo modeling. He's hot... but in the process he pissed off his boyfriend of many years and ruined almost all his friendships due to his new found asshole - I'm better than everyone else and I'll just kick your ass if you disagree - personality.

Be careful, watch yourself, and set up some traps to detect if you've gone out of line on the personality in case you don't catch it yourself. Or just don't do it.