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[pionex]

I just started my first cycle but I'm only using winsrol.

[traveller]

Pionex,

The cycles I typically see on the bodybuilding boards and in books have Winstrol (Stanozolol) taken with other steroids like testosterone. But, I have limited personal experience with only only 2 cycles so far; a 6-week testosterone cypionate cycle, and a 3-month test. cyp./nandralone deca/winstrol cycle.

I found my injection sites for Stanazolol to be sore for days unlike the test/deca injections; some people are lucky not to have this problem. I was still sore even if I injected it very slowly. Since I took 50 mg. of it every other day, my butt got a bit sore over time.

Next week I'm starting my third cycle of dianobol/test. cyp./deca/Winstrol for 3 months. I'll take d-bol for 8 weeks, and Winstrol for the remaining 4 weeks, with the same level of test. cyp./deca throughout the cycle. I also will be taking about 0.5 ml (500 UIs?) of HCG to keep my gonads active during the cycle.

Seems that I got rather long winded... :^)

Good luck!

traveller

[Notbigenuff]

Traveller,
I'm curious, what kind of results did you have from your previous cycles? Care to share with everyone?

[traveller]

Notbigenuff,

The 2nd cycle took me from 210 to 230. After it ended I dropped to 5 lbs. within a week or two. Then I slowly dropped down to 218 +/-3 lbs. from end of Jan. 2004 until now with a low to moderate carb diet. My arm went up from 18-18.25" to 18.75-19" during this time; size went down a tad after cycle ended. I'm not sure about the other measurements since I don't obsess about those. Right now my belly has two rows of the abs. showing; I can still pinch fat. My quads show some slight separation if flex them.

I don't recall my first cycle's changes, but I believe my bodyfat went up afterward because I didn't take anything, e.g., HCG, after the cycle to recover. My arms already hit 18" before I began to cycle. I also had gone up to 220 lbs. naturally but with high bodyfat percentage.

I hope to hit 235-240 on this 3rd cycle. Afterward I'd like to lean down to 220. We'll see.

Traveller

[muscle_d_2000]

traveller ... don't know what your daily dose of dbol is but you might want to consider taking an antiestrogen such as clomid or arimidex to counter its estrogenic effects. These effects which include water retention and fat accumulation can make for an uncomfortable cycle.

[traveller]

muscle_d_2000,

Thanks for your advice. I already have arimidex, and have been taking it for this cycle. I even have Citrucel handy for fiber since I'm upping my caloric intake. ;^)

traveller

P.S. As an experiment, I drink a cup of grapefruit juice as a chaser to the dbol pills. I heard that the grapefruit *may* increase the amount of the drug the body processes--have know idea if that works in my case.