Gynecomastia

[sparkymcsparks]

Hey everyone, I've never used steroids before but I do have gynecomastia even though my bodyfat is fairly average. I'm 6'1" 220 pounds, 17.5 arms, 47 chest, etc. With a shirt on I look really built with a muscular chest, but my confidence is low when I take my shirt off on the beach or anywhere. It keeps me from going shirtless in my backyard even.

I've researched considerably how to reduce or remove gynecomastia, including various breast cancer treatment drugs, estrogen blockers, testosterone boosters, and surgery but can't see a really safe and effective way to get rid of it.

Does anybody on this site have a good experience with noticeable results of any treatment of this condition? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[buckman]

Dude, I know the feeling, it sucks. I opted for the surgery that removes the gynecomastia and it was the best boost in self-esteem I've ever had. I used to be just like you, too embarrassed to even mow the back yard shirtless! If I had to take my shirt off around friends I would always try to hide somehow...

I never tried any treatments to remove it, from an early age my doctor was stupid and always said it was just a hormone imbalance that would eventually go away...well it didn't, so after like 5 or 6 years I switched doctors! My new doctor recognized it almost immediately for what it was and referred me to a cosmetic surgeon. Not too long ago either, just like 4 months ago I think, and I had the procedure done, and was out of the hospital in a matter of hours, just had to take it easy for a week and a bit. No stitches, no pain, but a BOOST in self-esteem. I'm not embarrassed to take my shirt off anymore, going to the pool or the beach with my friends is actually fun now, not like before when I was too self-conscious to have any fun.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do! If you try the treatments then hopefully those will work for you!

[sparkymcsparks]

Thanks Buckman, I'm glad someone finally replied to this. I'll probably end up opting for the surgery, since I posted I've been cutting, went down to 210 pounds, and some of the fat is gone, but the glands are still there which I think can only be removed from surgery. I'm glad you're happy with the results.

[Ender]

I've been there too... The last thing an adolescent boy needs is the hit puberty and grow breasts it really sucks...

You feel like the only one in the world with the problem... The truth is that most boys will experience some breast development during puberty. But for most guys it's barely noticeable and quickly goes away on its own as their hormone levels balance out.

I too was one of the unlucky ones where it didn't go away... I was a chubby kid and everyone told me it was just fat... I hit 200lb at 5'6" so fat was a issue but I eventually got down to under 140lb at 5'6" and the Gyno looked even worst. People told me to do a lot of chest exercises and it would firm up. That was dead wrong, building up your chest only made the Gyno look worse. I finally had surgery for it and felt a lot better about myself. My only regret is that I didn't have it done when I was a teen rather than in my late 30's...

Ender

[tremorwolf]

I've been battling this myself too.. the question is HOW ,, how to i get my insurance to approve this.. I've done all but slit my wrists in the dr office,, all i get told is (now one is looking. just accept it)

How did you guys get it done?

[FuzzyKB]

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There is no simple answer. I am aware of the games with both unresponsive MD's and unresponsive insurance carriers on this problem. I had it as a teen and at that time I was by some considered underweight, but I had this breast tissue and it was a definite embarrassment. For the time period that I suffered from it the thing that saved me was that there was another kid who was not fat that actually had it so badly as to have female shaped breasts on a body that was relatively thin otherwise. The other kids did not pay attention to me because they were too busy attacking this kid named Jeff.

There are a number of things that can be tried and sometimes treatment with anti-estrogenic drugs is very successful. This has the benefit of helping your lifting by altering your testosterone to estrogen ratio by reducing the estrogen to nearly nothing.

Usually if it is severe the only option is surgical and you need to find the best to do it perfectly especially if you are into bodybuilding.

There is one upside to a very minor and transitory case and that is that men who have had this about 50% of the time have their nipple area turned into an erogenous zone connected to their dick.

Other than that I would side with the other posters and start slowly looking for a good surgeon.

By the way a percentage of men receiving supplemental testosterone for whatever reason will grow this as well. Most MD's are not savvy on this one nor are most compounding pharmacies making the creams. The best solution is DHT cream or gel and from what I have been told it works about 65-70% of the time and you get the additional benefits. [/COLOR]

[nypup2train]

Originally Posted by FuzzyKB

There is one upside to a very minor and transitory case and that is that men who have had this about 50% of the time have their nipple area turned into an erogenous zone connected to their dick.

Honest question: Do you have any references on that being directly related to, or resulting from, the gyno condition? Because, trust me, plenty of guys without gyno experience the same thing.

And to paraphrase an article I've frequently quoted (from a Boston gay rag some 10 years ago): "Those who've discovered their chest as an erogenous zone claim all it takes is one night of intense nipple play with an experienced partner to make any guy a believer."

[BIGJOEY]

I would suggest that before surgery that you get a complete hormonal profile . One needs to knwo where their male/ femal hormones are at before you can deal with any male brest tissue issues. if you dont know where to get or how to get your idiot doctore to order contact me. Once you get the results then you can set up the proper thepery to deal with the issue. it will proberly take a long cource of anti-estrogen drugs to slwo it down. Stay away from all Soy products and that includes protein bars, some protein powders , tofu etc. if all else fails then surgery is your best optition.

[sparkymcsparks]

Hey guys, I just decided to revisit this thread. Ive practically lost all traces of my gyno by exercise and nutrition alone. I consulted my doctor about surgery and he was adamant against it and I asked about testosterone therapy which he also declined.

I decided to research and experiment on myself with natural means. I started taking ZMA by Allmax which is Zinc magnesium and eating vegetables that boost testosterone ( broccoli, Brussels sprouts) as well as foods that reduce and block estrogens.

Right now I'm very confident to whip off my shirt atthe beach or anywhere I can even and those who have seen my videos on My Pecs So Far thread could see my development.

The increase in zinc seems to have amazing results below the belt too

[Yachirobi]

Can you add more info, sparky? What foods are you eating (or not eating) and what does zinc have to do with it? The zinc thing is new to me.

[dodoria21]

I never knew this was an actual thing, but count me in as a guy who has it. Just as articles about it say, it developed for me during puberty, and was definitely the main source of my self-esteem issues and some teasing.

I am hoping that since I've started exercising and eating right recently that it'll diminish on its own. I feel like I've seen a difference in that area already, because surgery and even these non-surgical treatments don't sound very feasible for me.

sparky, i've definitely noticed an improvement in the videos you have shared with us. I also take zinc as a supplement and I like my vegetables. What else have you done that you feel helped achieve your goal naturally? Like I said, I thought this was just where my fat chose to go. I never considered it an actual condition. I hope I can get rid of it on my own now.

[sparkymcsparks]

In my research it seemed like gyno is getting increasingly more prevalent in today's north American society yet very little was known about why it occurs other than hormones due to puberty, an imbalance or old age.

Since there was so little information about the source of the hormone change I decided to experiment on myself. I noticed a friend of mine with really bad gyno would drink soda all the time, so I stopped drinking carbonated drinks for 2 years. I also found out that the soft plastic that bottles are composed of contain estrogens to make it soft. Studies have shown that these estrogens leech into the drinks and is especially bad with bottled water, so I only drank filtered tap water from then on.

Researching natural foods that increase testosterone got me to change my diet around that. Broccoli, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, red meat, oysters etc ( google it for a better list) and foods that inhibit estrogen I made sure to eat a lot of.

Gyno seems to be happening in north America at an alarming rate. Food and drinks have ingredients that are harmful to make them cheaper. What used to be sugar and natural fructose ( fruit sugar) in drinks has been replaced by corn syrup (really bad). So I only drank juices from concentrate or with cane sugar etc. Started drinking out of glass bottles an microwaving food in glass containers so plastic couldnt leech into the food.

Zinc is key for men. It increases fertility, testosterone and natural growth hormone but needs magnesium for maximum potential. I picked up Allmax Nutritions ZMA which is zinc-magnesium that I take every night before bed to increase those hormones. It's completely natural and is often lacking in men with fertility problems and hormone imbalances. The foods i listed above are high in zinc.

So after doing that for a couple years I can say that gyno is no longer a problem for me. I always figure if there is a problem that gets worse in modern society that we need to go back to nature and our natural ways/foods to solve the problem. I haven't found any cases of gyno a hundred years ago, so maybe it has something to do with our plastic unnatural world of today.

[monstermusclebe]

It is great to hear that your gyno is no longer a problem for you. Congratulations. If you had still been stuck, this reply would have suggested many of the very things you have done.

Though testing on this would be difficult ~ as the entire society is awash with it, so there is no control group to work with ~ I am personally certain that much of the odd hormonal issues affecting both men and women ~ and girls and boys as they reach and go through puberty ~ have a lot to do with our diet and how that diet is prepared.

More than curing your gyno, you have improved your overall health, as these things do not simply affect the breast tissue, obviously.

Personally, I would also get rid of the microwave. Totally blasting the cells of the food into oblivion doesn't seem like the best way to prepare your food before you injest it, and there is evidence that microwaves cause certain fats to turn into rather ugly things for the body (which we know of with certainly for microwave popcorn).

I don't even cook most of the food I eat, believing that the more alive a food is, the higher its nutritional value (on the whole). That doesn't mean I'm eating raw hamburger meat. But I do drink a lot of raw whole milk, and I eat a lot of dark, leafy green veggies (which you are doing with the cruciferous veggies such as broccoli). I do cook most of my dinner, generally ~ though I only lightly steam the veggies if I cook them at all. But I keep my steaks medium rare and grass fed, and my fish is wild caught, never farmed.

There is a lot of evidence that the grains and other food that is fed to our cattle, our poultry ~ and now our fish ~ dramatically affects the quality of the meat and its nutritional content. For example, red meat isn't generally listed as a good source of Omega 3's... whereas fish IS. But farmed fish ~ a fairly recent "innovation" in the food supply ~ is now known to tend to be LOW in Omega 3s, whereas grass fed beef ~ it has surprised researches to learn ~ tends to be HIGH in Omega 3s (at least compared with beef from grain-fed cattle).

One final note about all of this: the most important thing I have read about to change your health is the amount of water you drink. Something around 80% of the general public is chronically dehydrated. Water is essential to nearly every single body function. Imagine what happens to a body when it doesn't receive abundant water, regularly: certain functions simply don't work as well, and others may begin going wrong.

Congratulations again, guy. Here's hoping that a lot of other people begin to follow your example.