This Is It!

[glammaman2000]

registering for Gay Games Chicago&Montreal this month.diet starts tomorrow&(small"s")serious training on thurs.i'm bored to death with myself&my sloppy diet is getting to be a problem.i'm also better at EVERYTHING when i have a goal!i should have pix soon&the ever-lovely Brent has agreed to post them(ground zero won't be pretty)i hope you guys will encourage&goad me!let's turn this mess into something you'd want to see on a stage!FLAB-MAN to GLAM-MAN!!

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by glammaman2000

registering for Gay Games Chicago&Montreal this month.diet starts tomorrow&(small"s")serious training on thurs.i'm bored to death with myself&my sloppy diet is getting to be a problem.i'm also better at EVERYTHING when i have a goal!i should have pix soon&the ever-lovely Brent has agreed to post them(ground zero won't be pretty)i hope you guys will encourage&goad me!let's turn this mess into something you'd want to see on a stage!FLAB-MAN to GLAM-MAN!!

Best of luck!

[Buffling]

Yayyyy Glammaman! You know we're all behind you .... and heck, it's only a 90 minute drive to Montreal, so you know DAMN well I'll be there to cheer you on, cop a feel, ask you to help me move, and make you eat fresh veggies.

[ethernet_jock]

YEAH! You Go Gir....l..... er...ummmm.... Boy?!

You Go Gay Person!!

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by ethernet_jock

YEAH! You Go Gir....l..... er...ummmm.... Boy?!

BY ORDER OF THE SECRET GAY AGENDA...

Be it hereby noted that ethernet jock has special gay dispensation to use the term "you go girl" when talking to gay men.

[brent]

Originally Posted by Corwin

BY ORDER OF THE SECRET GAY AGENDA...
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So, does he get a pink card too?


Seriously, we are all proud, and I bet with your muscle-memory, the transformation will be great! *Checking my snail-mail daily again*

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by brent

So, does he get a pink card too?

I don't think he's ready for pastels, do you?

[glammaman2000]

..."YOU GO,GLAM-THANG!"of course.

[wbhunk]

I think Ether goes with everything....from pastels to puces.

I vote we give him an honorary membership card, blazer badge, and preferred parking....LOL.

Glamma....congratulations.....looking forward to cheering your progress!

[brent]

I like people having honorary cards, that way I can deduct points when they say something stupid like, "I don't like to shop".

[ethernet_jock]

* falls of his chair in an uncontrollable fit of giggling and laughter *

* picks himself up off the floor *

well, alrighty then! I hereby accept this card of the secret and proud homosexual agenda and hide it carefully deep in my wallet so that nobody sees that I have the posession of anything pink in color.



I don't "hate" shopping per se.... but.... I do tend to go with a goal in mind, buy that one thing, and leave. Other times you can catch me browsing the clearance racks or looking and tools and electronics (like the typical guy) but otherwise I'm not a "look down every aisle for something cool" shopper.

Alright alright, I admit it, I do look on ebay for shoes about every 2 or 3 weeks. I have a thing for shoes. It's not that I own a lot of them (maybe 5 pairs) but I love picking up a very cool pair of nikes or adidas in my size (13) on ebay for less than $30.... it makes me feel special. Go figure. So yeah, I admit it, I'm a bisexual shoe shopper.

LOL

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by ethernet_jock

I don't "hate" shopping per se.... but.... I do tend to go with a goal in mind, buy that one thing, and leave.

I do the same. My partner tells me, quite emphatically, that this is not shopping but buying.

[Mdlftr]

The old adage:
"Women shop, men buy"

--not necessarily true. If "shopping" is looking around for the best deal (either at the store or before you get there) then buying what you want at the best price, then most people "shop".

If "shopping" is spending literally hours wandering from store to store, trying on clothes, checking stuff out and then, having lunch, and going back to more stores for hours...all without buying anything (!), then, NO, Men don't shop!!

Men "shop" to procure items. Women like to "shop" as a social activity. Guys (secretly) do the same thing--we just calling it "hanging out/going to the store to pick up a few things."

Mdlftr
(who shops with a purpose)

[wbhunk]

I have to admit to being one of those people who cross-compares sizes, brands, and prices, all in the hopes of getting the best deal.

Last week was a prime example. I've got my regular grocery shopping down to a science, as in five minutes in and out....but this time, I had to buy beer, since all my relatives were coming into town (ordinarily I don't drink it). Thirty minutes later........

One more thing that everyone comments on -- I use coupons. I've gotten used to the checkout person saying, "Gee, I've never seen a guy with those before...." Is this a sign of something?

[brent]

Originally Posted by Mdlftr

T...
If "shopping" is spending literally hours wandering from store to store, trying on clothes, checking stuff out and then, having lunch, and going back to more stores for hours...all without buying anything (!), then, NO, Men don't shop!!
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Um, I do all those things, with other male friends, and I'd like to think we're men... My current fave are floral-print shirts. Or a cute pair of leather boots.

BTW, Nikes & Adidas, even cute ones aren't shoes. They are sneakers, and should not be worn outside of a gym.

[ethernet_jock]

Originally Posted by brent

BTW, Nikes & Adidas, even cute ones aren't shoes. They are sneakers, and should not be worn outside of a gym.

ouch..... *sting*

You know, I just bought my very first pair of "business" shoes ever about 5 weeks ago for my new job. LOL Best yet - they're GBX - still somewhat agressive tread and not really considered a "formal" brand. I just can't wear "adult" shoes. I even have an all black pair of Nike's with suede that pass for "business" shoes only because nobody looks close enough to see the little "swish".

So yeah.... I disagree. :P My shoes comprise of: Nike, Adidas, Oakley (yes, they make shoes, cool ones too), Teva, GBX, New Balance (just for running), and Skechers. It works for me. Hrm, I guess that's a few more than 5.

As far as "shopping" goes it looks like there's a more variable definition than I originally thought. I DO almost ALWAYS price shop. If there's 3 types of the same thing in front of me, particularly at the grocery store, I'm the guy who does the quick math dividing price over quantity to find the best deal. I do it every time. I'll take two shirts with the same design an decide if it's worth the $3-5 extra for the 2XL size over the XL size depending on the design of the shirt. I do analyze everything but I always felt like that was the analytical logical thinker in me and had little to do with the joy of shopping.

:P

[Mdlftr]

Originally Posted by brent

Um, I do all those things, with other male friends, and I'd like to think we're men... My current fave are floral-print shirts. Or a cute pair of leather boots.


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Yes, but the key question here is: Do you buy (as in put down money) for those "Cute pair of leather boots"?

If you do, then you are shopping, my friend, guy-style, not girl-["oh, isn't this Just ADORABLE! We've been to 5 stores and tried everything on, stopped for lunch and now we're going to another mall to see another 5 stores, and try on some of the same outfits at those new stores, and then we're stopping at Starbucks, and then we're going to try the new lipstick at the Clinique counter, and then..."]style.

OF course, if you DO actually do all of that, and STILL don't buy anything, you are a girly-shopper! REAL MEN spend money!!

{RAHHH!! Thumps chest, pulls out credit card, lights up dollar bills with a match, lights a big cigar, straddles the world.....}

Meglomaniaical shopper Mdlftr


P.S. I use coupons also and routinely save 10% or more of my bill! [REAL MEN get a deal!]

[brent]

Originally Posted by Mdlftr

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OF course, if you DO actually do all of that, and STILL don't buy anything, you are a girly-shopper! REAL MEN spend money!!

{RAHHH!! Thumps chest, pulls out credit card, lights up dollar bills with a match, lights a big cigar, straddles the world.....}
...

I have bought things before, I mean I can get dressed in the morning. It's just that 95% of the time I return home empty-handed, but I had a get time with friends. One of my main problems is that most stores put the Men's department in a dark corner, in the back of the basement. I hate that. Also, most cute things aren't even made in my size. My friends tell me that I should workout more with a spoon (as in bulimia) than a bench-press.

BTW, don't ever get you lipstick from Clinique. Aveda is much better IMHO.

[Mdlftr]

Originally Posted by brent

I have bought things before, I mean I can get dressed in the morning. It's just that 95% of the time I return home empty-handed, but I had a get time with friends. One of my main problems is that most stores put the Men's department in a dark corner, in the back of the basement. I hate that. Also, most cute things aren't even made in my size. My friends tell me that I should workout more with a spoon (as in bulimia) than a bench-press.

BTW, don't ever get you lipstick from Clinique. Aveda is much better IMHO.

Agreed about the having a good time with friends--I think girls are much more into the process, as an end in itself than guys are.

RE: sizes. You got that right! I think we send somewhere else on the string about the male models being picked for some tv show: the "standard size" is a 40 Regular, with a size 10-11 C width shoe, so, if you don't meet that, tough!

Lipstick: oh, I dunno, what about Max Factor or Revlon? Pricey, but classic!

Aftershave/cologne: There's a touchy subject! My father-in-law is an "Old Spice" man, My Dad's a "basic soap and water" and I'm a "soap and water with Mennen "sport" speed stick-kind-of-guy! {I have a co-worker, older, ex-military guy, who wears some G-d awful "scent" that his wife must have picked out. It doesn't quite make my eyes water, but...! Too bad the windows in this office don't open! Gasp! Need air!}

BUT THE BURNING QUESTION:

What about those Eurpean-style "wallets/guy handbags/whatever they're called" things that appeared on Seinfeld a few years back? Would any of this forum's readers actually buy/use one?

I saw a guy (European, natch, cause I asked) carrying one in the elevator a few weeks ago. [This is suburban Wash. DC, so maybe we're more "Cosmopolitan" ?] He said it was handy to carry stuff and didn't ruin the line of his pants.

O.k., so maybe I won't go there---would anyone else?

And I'm NOT Counting gym bags when you bring them to the office! (or those two briefcases, or the laptop computer bag with the briefcase...)

Mdlftr

[wbhunk]

LOL....I have to agree with Brent that athletic shoes are only for the gym, but I don't think it's for the same reason.....if I'm in long pants, I'm wearing boots (as in cowboy boots) and in shorts, either sandals or slip on boat shoes. I only have one pair of athletic shoes, and it's the pair that I bought ten years ago for my senior year for varsity tennis..

EJ, if you've never tried them before, Rockport Dres-Sports are great shoes -- basically an athletic shoe sole with formal uppers. I have a pair in black and another in brown, and just love 'em.

And per Md's question.....I wouldn't, and I don't know anyone who would. I do have a nifty black-leather belt pack that I use for traveling overseas and anywhere else where pickpockets are rampant that can be worn like a man-purse....but I like it better on my waist.

And as for cologne....a splash of Stetson, and that's it.

[Wynfrith]

This is a bizarely entertaining thread....

[ethernet_jock]

*snickers*

man-purse....

I'm sorry, but I think even Gay guys look incredibly stupid carrying around a purse. Just my $0.02. The Boulder area (where I was raised) is THE MOST liberal and "open" part of Colorado and there are plenty of guys there who carry man-purses. I was sitting in a restaurant inside a mall with my mom a few months ago near Boulder and a gay guy walked by the window carrying a gucci (sp?) and she expressed her annoyance that the purse he was carrying cost even more than hers! LOL

Anyhow - I just had to comment. Don't hit me with your purse!

[brent]

Originally Posted by wbhunk

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or slip on boat shoes.
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black-leather belt pack
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Dan, please send your boat shoes, and your fanny-pack back to the early 1980's, no return to sender!!!

As for "man-bags", or whatever you want to call them, I've used them since 1991, long before Seinfeld, or whatever other vacuous show had them. I like to read, and you need to constantly have lotion & water on you when you live in the desert. As for the topic of cologne, I'm highly allergic, so I get deodorant with a nice, light sent. It's getting hard to find good deodorant because most Americans prefer antiperspirant, but I hate that crap, and only use deodorant...

[wbhunk]

LOL....the scary part, now that I think about it, is that those shoes and the pack ARE from the 80s....I've had them since I was 14!

[ethernet_jock]

wbhunk - thanks for the recomendation on the shoes BTW... I will take that into consideration next time I need some.

[brent]

Originally Posted by wbhunk

LOL....the scary part, now that I think about it, is that those shoes and the pack ARE from the 80s....I've had them since I was 14!

Yeah, I think it's time you gave them a retirement party, and let them rest then. 17 years is a long time for shoes.

Oh m'god, they're like talking fashion again. This is so rad.

Oh, come on you silly boys, let's talk hair again this is so fun. (as wrist dangles limply :-)

[brent]

Originally Posted by LeatherGryphon

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let's talk hair again
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Great idea! I'm bored with mine, and I've been thinking of trying something new. Any ideas?

[ethernet_jock]

#3 shaver - all over. #2 or #1 on the sides too if you're feeling creative.

Easy to maintain, cool breezes in the summertime, tough guy look a major + with the ladies (and the bois), and nothing hides a receeding hairline better.

Or.... maybe that's just for me.

[brent]

Well, I don't have a receding hairline, yet, but I do have a fancy new scar on top of my head to show-off! If there's one thing the bois like, it's a cool new scar!