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Damn he was hot at 17
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Holy hell!!!! Thats the same guy?!?!?!
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Yep, Aaron is one of the most amazing transformations. He is gigantic now and very close to becoming one of the top guys in his class. I know a lot of guys think he looks way too old, but I think he looks perfect!
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I actually like it more when he looked 17...
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His face was much better-looking when he was 17. He almost seems to be going bald now.
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Who gives a fuck about his face? It's the muscle, man! I get off on these photos that bring me up so close to these men, and I mean "get off!"
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Aaron has an excellent body, even in the places we don't see on stage (wink wink) but his lifestyle has taken a toll on him and that saddens me. He shouldn't look like he's 40 something. I worry about his health and I hope he's going easy on the meds now.
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At 17 he definitely would have been a highschool crush for me. Now he looks much older than he is but it kinda fits his muscle daddy body. Either way hot I guess. Except when he pulls that godawful face.
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I believe there is a post of him in the Before & After section, and if you haven't seen his total transformation, take a look. That pic of him at seventeen wowed all of us as much as the current photo is wowwing you now. The very first comparison pics from when he started, the "boy" was as skinny as a pipe cleaner and then blew up to that age seventeen pic. We were astounded. And now, even more.

As far as balding and face maturing. Yes, it's a little sad if it's happening, but it doesn't make him look ugly. Of all the things that could happen, if he's juicing heavily, I'd be more worried about his heart. I certainly hope none of those really bad side effects happen to him, but I love the build his body is turning into.
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Yeah he's cute at 17 but those boys are everywhere. Love how he's gotten so huge. He's not human now, all beast. Only thing in life that matters is getting bigger. Swelling up thick n huge. Doesn't matter that his face distorts. All the hotter cos it shows his addiction to growth and size. He's just a muscle bull now.

Damn what I wouldn't give to fuel him up some...
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"you looked better smaller" is never a true a statement in my world.

He looks more handsome, and hot than ever.
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"you looked better smaller" is never a true a statement in my world.
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I'm in the "he looks orgasmically fantastic below the chin" camp. He looks like he's on the fast track to Dave-Palumbo-face, which is not a place anyone should go. I do agree with F_R_Eaky that his organs are a bigger issue, though.
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Who gives a fuck about his face? It's the muscle, man! ...."
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check this out

If anyone is interested this thread has way more photos of Aaron Clark's ridiculous transformation from stick to beast.

http://www.musclegrowth.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10448
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Thanks Jaypat. Knew there was one in the transformations section, Just felt like he deserved a thread in the main section. Maybe we could possibly have these two threads merged under his name so it's easier to find.
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I think what's sad here is that it's pretty f'n obvious that Aaron's juiced himself to saturation point to get that big. While it's fantastically hot, I can't imagine the havoc being wreaked on his body. I mean, he seriously looks at least 10 years older than he really is...
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Aaron Clark is a professional bodybuilder now. The sad thing is that in this day and age you can't even consider becoming a professional bodybuilder unless you're willing to juice yourself to the gills.

That's why so many of them die in their 40's.
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I find it completely fascinating that people come to a muscle growth board, then complain when people grow muscle. If you feel this way, it sounds like this message board really isn't for you.
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Aaron Clark is a professional bodybuilder now. The sad thing is that in this day and age you can't even consider becoming a professional bodybuilder unless you're willing to juice yourself to the gills.

That's why so many of them die in their 40's.
Really? SO MANY? Haw many exactly, in a matter of percentage of bodybuilders in their 40s?
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Really? SO MANY? Haw many exactly, in a matter of percentage of bodybuilders in their 40s?
Oops, you got me. I don’t have the statistic. Why? Because nobody does the research on this. Why? Because steroids are illegal and nobody is supposed to be using them the way bodybuilders use them. And since no one should be using them, it’s assumed they don’t and there’s no funding for research. In fact, the level of ignorance on this subject is so great, when my buddy went to his doctor recently, he had to explain what anabolic steroids were, what they did, and exactly how they did it, you know, receptors and things of that nature (he’s a very smart guy and extremely well read on the subject.).

I’m sure there are doctors that work with professional athletes who know the score, but your average HMO doctor? Forget it. And since there’s such ignorance on the subject, when bodybuilders die of heart attacks or strokes, it’s attributed to other factors.

But there is a light at the end of the tunnel of ignorance. In the recent past, doctors have been prescribing testosterone to their middle aged male patients. And now, a lot of these men are developing serious health conditions linked to elevated levels of testosterone – and this isn’t even near the levels that bodybuilders take. And since there are a lot of lawsuits out there now, that should provide the funding for research.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to stop guys from using steroids. I just want us as a society to stop pretending they don’t exist and aren’t out there and in use every day. Steroids don’t kill these bodybuilders so much as a wall of deliberate ignorance. I firmly believe it is possible to use steroids responsibly, and get good gains from them with limited risk to your health. Why? Because I’ve done it.

But, I’ve also seen guys just pump the shit into themselves without much thought about the consequences. Sure they blow the fuck up, but some of them start leaking black fluid out of their nipples, develop gyno, and among other symptoms, age rapidly. Aaron Clark isn’t the first 25-year-old guy I’ve seen who looks like he’s well into in his 30’s.

It’s obvious, even to the most casual observer, that irresponsible use of steroids can tear you the fuck up – even kill you. Do I have statistics and scientific fact to back this up? No, because they don’t exist. To simply state, if you can’t prove steroids are killing guys in their 40's, they’re not, just tells me you don’t have much personal experience with them at all.

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What's really scary is a guy at work just blew out an eye because of all the crazy steroids he's been taking. This is after he blew out his other eye 6 months ago.
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I find it completely fascinating that people come to a muscle growth board, then complain when people grow muscle. If you feel this way, it sounds like this message board really isn't for you.
I'm attracted to muscle and muscle growth. Doesn't mean I'm attracted to everyone with muscles, or everyone who grows You should be more tolerant that people have different tastes. It's more fascinating to me, the lengths that people go to fufill their own growth fantasy are often fatal. Also, how fulfilling your own growth fantasy may exclude you from someone else's .

Personally, I think Aaron has always looked old for his age, even at 17. He does have a thick body, but like others, I hope he doesn't push himself too far. His body looks tired.
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How do you blow out an eye?
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ruptured cornea - ever heard of it? Because of the high blood pressure due to abusing steroids.
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ruptured cornea - ever heard of it? Because of the high blood pressure due to abusing steroids.
Steroids and any side effects can be completely unrelated to underlying high blood pressure. That is, you could have high blood pressure anyway, before ever touching steroids, and not know it.

Back to the ruptured cornea: besides rupturing a cornea, you can blow blood vessels in your eyes due to high blood pressure or sudden stress.

I once blew the blood vessels in my eyes after a coughing fit triggered my gag reflex and I threw up, violently. The stress made the blood vessels in my eyes rupture - I looked like Christopher Lee in the Dracula films from Hammer Films in the 1970s!!

http://www.empireonline.com/../indexes/images/f...ee-Dracula.jpg

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Seriously, High Blood Pressure is nothing to joke about or ignore. Besides your eyes, you could have a stroke or set yourself up for heart disease or kidney disease.

See: http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-hi...nsion-overview

High blood pressure could have lots of causes besides steroids. You can have a genetic predisposition to high blood pressure and be asymptomatic.

Seriously, anyone who is interested in getting more muscular or bigger due to more muscle mass needs to find out his blood pressure and keep track of it to maintain it in normal limits. Increased weight due to muscle mass gain could affect your blood pressure, totally aside from steroids.

This concludes our public service announcement......
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Bodybuilders who push thier bodies to extremes are making a choice. They're adults(or at least should be, I'm not for the teen abuse)
It's dangerous. But it's the life they want to live. It's no different than a person who chooses mountain climbing for a "hobby." Its what fufills them. Most of these pro level guys are very acute to monitoring their bodies as much as possible. Some foolishly think they're invincible. Either way, its their choice.
And as supporters of muscle growth, we cant be here encourage these massive muscle guys AND subject them to normal concepts of "you need to take care of yourself, I wish they'd be more careful" it's just not how this works. Theres no extreme reward(which being a muscle beast is) without extreme risk.
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Oops, you got me. I don?t have the statistic. Why? Because nobody does the research on this. Why? Because steroids are illegal and nobody is supposed to be using them the way bodybuilders use them. And since no one should be using them, it?s assumed they don?t and there?s no funding for research. In fact, the level of ignorance on this subject is so great, when my buddy went to his doctor recently, he had to explain what anabolic steroids were, what they did, and exactly how they did it, you know, receptors and things of that nature (he?s a very smart guy and extremely well read on the subject.).

I?m sure there are doctors that work with professional athletes who know the score, but your average HMO doctor? Forget it. And since there?s such ignorance on the subject, when bodybuilders die of heart attacks or strokes, it?s attributed to other factors.

But there is a light at the end of the tunnel of ignorance. In the recent past, doctors have been prescribing testosterone to their middle aged male patients. And now, a lot of these men are developing serious health conditions linked to elevated levels of testosterone ? and this isn?t even near the levels that bodybuilders take. And since there are a lot of lawsuits out there now, that should provide the funding for research.

Don?t get me wrong. I don?t want to stop guys from using steroids. I just want us as a society to stop pretending they don?t exist and aren?t out there and in use every day. Steroids don?t kill these bodybuilders so much as a wall of deliberate ignorance. I firmly believe it is possible to use steroids responsibly, and get good gains from them with limited risk to your health. Why? Because I?ve done it.

But, I?ve also seen guys just pump the shit into themselves without much thought about the consequences. Sure they blow the fuck up, but some of them start leaking black fluid out of their nipples, develop gyno, and among other symptoms, age rapidly. Aaron Clark isn?t the first 25-year-old guy I?ve seen who looks like he?s well into in his 30?s.

It?s obvious, even to the most casual observer, that irresponsible use of steroids can tear you the fuck up ? even kill you. Do I have statistics and scientific fact to back this up? No, because they don?t exist. To simply state, if you can?t prove steroids are killing guys in their 40's, they?re not, just tells me you don?t have much personal experience with them at all.
I will say, anecdotally, the following two points, since I am not going to go and research this, but I recall reading support for both of these points:

1. Steroids have been used, under medical supervision, for going on 3 decades now, to successfully treat muscle wasting found in AIDS patients. In the book "Muscle Boys - Gay Gym Culture" by Erick Alvarez, there is an entire chapter, "Chapter 7. The Poz Jock" that talks about the successful treatment of AIDS associated muscle wasting with anabolic steroids. For more information, check out the author's website: www.erickalvarez.com.

2. The over prescription of testosterone = jellies, pills, patches is indeed finally catching the attention of the medical community. My doctor said that the medical awareness of the over-prescription of testosterone is much like that of estrogen 20 years ago. At one time, it was deemed the "magic pill" cureall. Now, people are taking a second look at the other effects: prostate growth, high blood pressure, heart attacks, etc.

Again, kudos to Jaypat for his well structured response.

Jaypat, Just out of curiousity, how much mass did you gain while taking steroids? Do you think it helped you gain muscle beyond a point you could have gotten to eventually yourself, or do you think it was "bonus" muscle?

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speaking as a competive bodybuilder some guys do go overboard with the amount of gear they use. Others use very little. To say that all bodybuilders have heart attacks or strokes or a majority die in their 40's is based on your view without any supporting facts. TO date no death has ever been directly attributed to a person use of steroids. The latest fad on tv with the lawyers pushing ofr law suits fo the use of HRT is the latest gimic for them to make money. all drugs have side affects and it doesnt matter if they are legal or not. There will always be a certain % who has a reaction to any drug be it asprin or testerone. the fact that you worry about a few bodybuilders dying from heart attacks without know their family medical history is just plain stupid. No offence but it is. Let me see you complain about the 9000+ people who die each year in US from asprin ot the amount of people who get prescribed the wrong meds or are given over doses in the hospital. Thats a lot kore serious than what some competive bodybuilder takes or does. Some guys do age faster and then there are soem guys who use gear who dont age very fast. Again we do come back to family history and genetics. SO
my whol point is this very few guys can hit the top level in the sport. thery are truly one in a million. AS for friends knowing a lot yea some do but nobody knows everything and they pros i know dont use a lot so dont lump everybody into group. As for legal or not that really doesnt make a difference.
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I stand corrected

You're right. A lot of it does depend on the individual and their personal reaction to the drug. The problem is we just don't know enough about it. And it's just too easy to dismiss these lawsuits as money making gimmicks. No doubt that's a large part of it, but it has to have some basis in fact. How much fact? Fortunately, the lawyers are going to have to produce some nice scientific studies in order to prove their cases in court. And that should provide us with a greater understanding of steroids and how they effect the human body. Certainly this is not the ideal way to get this information, but its the way our society works.

Again, I'm not against using steroids. I've used them myself and I'm sure most of your friends are using them responsibly and will not have any serious health issues due their use.

And you're right, there is no evidence linking heart attacks to steroid use, but that's because nobody's looking for it. Nobody cares... at least until recently when the lawyers discovered there was money to be made from it.
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I just wanted to come back and say once more I'm not against steroid use. I realize I'm coming across as Mr. Anti-steroid and that's not the way I feel at all.
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