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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:41 PM
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What Is "To Big"

Hey Everyone, I was Just wondering what most of you think is
"To Big"
Like You start getting turned off by it or something??
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I don't think too big is humany possible...
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Hey Everyone, I was Just wondering what most of you think is
"To Big"
Like You start getting turned off by it or something??
It's all a matter of taste, I am a bodybuilder and I believe the bigger the better. Look at someone like Jean Pierre Fux that type of size is what motivates lots of bodybuilders, others think it's gross.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 01:15 PM
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Well I mean Like in a Growth Story, How Much Muscle or How Tall is To Big?? You Know
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With respect to growth stories, I pretty much like for guys to be (sorta) within the realms of humanly possible. From my point of view, anything taller than 7 feet is a story about giantism, not muscle growth, and I'm not too interested.

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(And, NO, that does NOT apply to Conan Stevens or any other plus-7 feet bodybuilders! They're just extraordinarily rare...!)
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I agree with Arpee. Once they surpass 7', and/or 500lbs..ok, maybe 600!...it becomes harder to relate to it in human terms. I think that's why I didn't really enjoy the first Hulk movie. The Hulk became like King Kong huge, rather than Lou Ferrigno huge, yet still massively strong.
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To answer the the question "What is too big?" you first need to define the context. Too big for what or where. If memory serves me if you're 5'3" or more you're too big to be Mickey Mouse at Disney World. People that are over 7 feet tall have a vastly increased risk of developing major problems with their heart circulatory and respiratory system and degenerative joint problem than some one 5'6" so in a sense they are to big to live on a plant with 1G gravity, 1 ATM surface pressure and an 80/20% Nitrogen/Oxygen atmosphere. It's all a matter of where you are and what you want to do.

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As far as bodybuilders alive today is concerned I can't think of one that is too big. I agree with others that stories when people get to 8' 6" and 1,000lbs are too far off the mark to be stimulating. As far as regular bodybuilders are concerned the bigger the better.
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As far as bodybuilders alive today is concerned I can't think of one that is too big. I agree with others that stories when people get to 8' 6" and 1,000lbs are too far off the mark to be stimulating. As far as regular bodybuilders are concerned the bigger the better.
Right the base model human in Earth standard condition won't scale up that big and what you need to do to allow most of the features that most people would accept as "human" a being that size in Earth standerd conditions really wouldn't look look all the human up close...


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My definition of too big is based on average

Perfect Height: Between 5ft 9 and 6ft 1
Perfect Weight: Between 1.50lbs per inch and 2.50lb per inch (i.e between 104 - 183)
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Very well put, Celtic. While big guys like Garrett Allin, Branch Warren and Big Lou are great examples of male masculinity for their heights/sizes, some of the hottest muscle I have seen are the lean and tight, like Chadwick, Kenny Stone and Channing Tatum, to name a few.
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So by your definition 5'9" 390 would be too big, even at 17 percent bodyfat.
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I don't think there's a too big when it comes to muscle growth fantasy. There is too small, I think... ;3
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What is too big?

In my mind, a bodybuilder can never be too big...........wonder how big the freaks will be in ten years time. But as far as fantasies go, let a fantasy be just that, a fantasy.
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Well, pertaining to musclegrowth stories, I've always liked it when writers kept things fairly realistic and slow. The process is always the hottest part but the fantasy starts to lack substance when theres no frame of reference and a character is 600lbs and considered "average". 600lbs is huge and should be treated as huge.

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Thumbs up Too Big

Have spent over 15 yrs. at 220 +, but am now much more satisfied with my overall appearance and build at 195-198. At nearly 62, this size feels very right to me. Size isn't everything, but I do like the massive types such as Gunter Schleierkamp, Coleman and Jean Fux. They are very motivational for me, but overall appearance sometimes wins me over, such as Frank Zane or Gordon Scott or Tom Zenk. Lookin' forward to more fitness and physique building for at least another ten to twenty years.
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Too Big?

Too big, for me, can occur when the guy is so huge that he just looks like a slab of beef; without symmetry or looking "sexy".

An example of this is Nassar El Sombaty. When I competed, he was the offseason guest poser. Yeah, he was huge but there was just no symmetry or sex-appeal. He breathed hard just walking.
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in fiction, there is no "too big" for me with regard to muscle size. but i'm not wild about stories where height starts getting past 7 feet.

in real life, big muscle are beautiful, if it came from lifting weight...with or without steriods. some guys have bodies that don't interest me for one reason or another, but generally big muscles = hot, in my book. but those who have injected synthol or added little bags of saline to their bodies just turn me right off. can't abide it.
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Big + Symmetry = No Limits! :)

I am commenting on real-life muscle, noit fiction......

As far as too big, to me there is no such thing as long as there is symmetry! As Dallasmsl had pointed out, too huge without symmetry and you start to look like a slab of beef.

Of course, good or bad, there is simply a fascination to see these unbelievably HUGE masses of muscle. And when you do bodybuild you do respect what it takes to get a body to that level of muscularity, so yes, get huge! And keep it symmetrical, moose! Do those LEGS!!

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I agree. Symmetry is the key.
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too big? um......no such thing!
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In real life, there is no too big. Im yet to see a man and think he's so big its no longer hot.

(as long as we're talking muscle, not synthol, which is gross).

In stories, I like it to be in the realms of possibility. I'ts not sexy if its not humanley possible
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I'd argue it depends on the genre.

In an "I took an experimental chemical and now I'm growing muscle," I'd agree that the human limit is the baseline (or maybe just barely crossing it... but no more than 8 feet tall).

In an "I took an experimental chemical and now I'm growing muscle and have superpowers" that all gets blown away. Muscle tends to be endemic in the superheroic milieu, though, so size tends to get more of a focus there (at least traditionally).

In an "I took a magical potion or had a spell cast on me and now I'm growing muscle" it varies, depending on the exact effect. Superheroism lends itself to big and flashy... magic can be flashy or more subtle. For instance, if the potion was eitr, or giant's blood, from Norse Mythology, you could expect to blow past all size constraints. If it was a strength charm or muscle growing enchantment, you'd expect the human limit to be more or less as far as you could go. If it was some sort of shapechanging spell, it could go either way. If it was a demonic pact, you could expect it to come with strings attached (maybe growing past the human limit but becoming immobile, or having your personality switch to more tempting or mean... though I always thought that if you're bad enough to make a deal with a demon in the first place, you're not good enough to get into heaven even without that deal). Magic might be too subtle to lend itself to growing muscle mass, however. Size and strength are easy, but muscle's appearance isn't quite deep enough for most magic.

In a "not quite superpowered" setting (like the Alphas or even Mutant X tv shows), I'd expect the human limit in height AND muscle mass.

In a "My great-grandfather is Zeus/Thor/Osiris and I'm a demi-semi-hemigod" plot, I'd say that muscle mass goes all out (there's a reason we refer to certain people as "looking like a Greek god" after all), and then size starts growing beyond human limits (lots of old paintings and reliefs and statues and pottery show divine and semidivine figures as much larger than mere mortals).
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"To Big" -- verb. (coinage) The act or process of growing larger.

"Too Big" -- adjective phrase. being large in excess of some standard or ideal.

The standard or ideal I choose depends on the nature of the largeness. In my case I'm too big (in the bodyfat sense) because it interferes with my metabolism working right.
I'm too big (in the muscle sense) when it interferes with my flexibility, or getting into tight spaces, but that's where tools are useful.

In the context of the abstract Human Male muscle-builder? Too Big can be applied to disproportionate growth that results in a nonfunctional or unpleasant, disproportionate body structure, OR to being sufficiently muscular that the body is harmed by it, or becomes unable to move as needed for survival.
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you are too big the moment your muscles restrain you from movement

(remember muscles are supposed to used for movement)
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You forget, Equus, that some people like immobility. It's not necessarily my thing, either. I'd like to draw a distinction, too, between what some might consider unattractively bulky or veiny and "too big." But the question must be asked- too big for what? Are we speaking of his attractiveness to us as readers, his ability to function in society, his ability to comfortably make love to his partner? Those are three different things.
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As far as cartoons, fictional things, morphs, and other inanimate objects are concerned, hyper and exxaggerated muscular sizes that exceed the size of a planet is already "too big" for me.

As far as reality is concerned, I already consider bodybuilders like Markus Ruhl as "too big". But I'm not complaining.
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I just go at it from a practical sense. If the guy is too big or can't do everyday things without a lot of help, he is too big. Though it's only sad if it's a real life person experiencing the negative of being too big, whereas for artwork or morphs it's fine.
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