Mitchell report

redwolf64 · #1 December 13th, 2007, 08:14 AM

Well, it appears the Mitchell report on steroids in baseball will be coming out today, starting off another round of roids in the news.

Any thoughts you'd like to share about roids in pro sports?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...tchell-report/

1bigwoof · #2 December 13th, 2007, 10:20 AM

My opinion may not be a popular one. I feel that steroids are like any other training aid or supplement. I don't have issues with their use. If they didn't work, athletes wouldn't use them and doctors wouldn't legally prescribe them for their patients. The only issue I see is regarding their use by teens. Like other drugs, their use by teens should continue to be restricted.

On the Mitchell report, it will be very interesting to see the media herd attack those names and create a witch hunt environment. To me it is somewhat amusing. If US law enforcement were as diligent on tracking down drug users (heroine, cocaine, etc) as they are with steroids, we'd probably have much lower drug use in this country.

xythan_shadow · #3 December 18th, 2007, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bigwoof

My opinion may not be a popular one. I feel that steroids are like any other training aid or supplement. I don't have issues with their use. If they didn't work, athletes wouldn't use them and doctors wouldn't legally prescribe them for their patients. The only issue I see is regarding their use by teens. Like other drugs, their use by teens should continue to be restricted.

On the Mitchell report, it will be very interesting to see the media herd attack those names and create a witch hunt environment. To me it is somewhat amusing. If US law enforcement were as diligent on tracking down drug users (heroine, cocaine, etc) as they are with steroids, we'd probably have much lower drug use in this country.

I agree with everything you just said.

Slevin · #4 December 18th, 2007, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bigwoof

My opinion may not be a popular one. I feel that steroids are like any other training aid or supplement. I don't have issues with their use. If they didn't work, athletes wouldn't use them and doctors wouldn't legally prescribe them for their patients. The only issue I see is regarding their use by teens. Like other drugs, their use by teens should continue to be restricted.

On the Mitchell report, it will be very interesting to see the media herd attack those names and create a witch hunt environment. To me it is somewhat amusing. If US law enforcement were as diligent on tracking down drug users (heroine, cocaine, etc) as they are with steroids, we'd probably have much lower drug use in this country.

Whoa now, Doctor's don't prescribe steroids for bodybuilding. At least they are not SUPPOSED to. Steroid's are intended for "wasting" diseases (Anemia, Aneorexia etc.,).

The clinical trials that people often credit to say steroids are "safe" are skewed by that factor. They are intedned for people with wasting disease and are tested on people with wasting disease.

In my view it's a calculated risk. You have to do your research, practice hygenic methods and know when to stop. Most intelligent people will be able to benefit from steroids without doing damage to your body.

Like alot of things in the medical field you need to consult a specialist. It may take a bit of doctor shopping but a good physician will give an unbiased view.

The biggest thing imo to look out for is high blood pressure. You should get regular Hepatic Function (Liver Function) tests with your check-up's to ensure everything is going okay.

The media is not equiped to give an unbiased view about steroids. The science behind it is like any other medical area. It's not something you can explain in 30 seconds.

There are many different types of steroids, many different ways to use them and many different results and side effects.

*gets off soap box*

dallasmsl · #5 December 23rd, 2007, 02:06 AM

Personally, I want drugs out politics. I don't want a government that makes people who take steroids criminals on the same level as Heroine. It's not right nor is it just. That's why I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. It's not the only reason but it is one of them. And this BS of going after big name sports stars is just that, BS. Get government out of sports!

redwolf64 · #6 December 25th, 2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dallasmsl

Personally, I want drugs out politics. I don't want a government that makes people who take steroids criminals on the same level as Heroine. It's not right nor is it just. That's why I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. It's not the only reason but it is one of them. And this BS of going after big name sports stars is just that, BS. Get government out of sports!

I have to agree, Dallas. It's all part of the whole War on Drugs.

It's getting pretty bad when some police officers are doing steroids to be able to be strong and muscled enough to do their jobs and the drugs themselves are classified in the same terms as heroin. It's just really out of whack.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with steroids in professional sports. No matter what anyone says about "protecting the children", these guys aren't role models and the high-stakes money involved doesn't make sports something to be looked at as exactly morally pure.

DaBigGuy1 · #7 December 26th, 2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by redwolf64

I have to agree, Dallas. It's all part of the whole War on Drugs.

It's getting pretty bad when some police officers are doing steroids to be able to be strong and muscled enough to do their jobs and the drugs themselves are classified in the same terms as heroin. It's just really out of whack.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with steroids in professional sports. No matter what anyone says about "protecting the children", these guys aren't role models and the high-stakes money involved doesn't make sports something to be looked at as exactly morally pure.

I could not have said it better myself. Both you and Dallas make a lot of sense......

I had read an article in which they had interviewed some police officers and they spoke of how they needed to have that advantage of being bigger in order to do their job, and in seeing some things that police officers have to go through I do not blame them one single bit.

Unfortunately, I hate to say it, but when the politician and bureaucracy get involved, things are going to get much worse before they get better.

We had better remain vigilant or we will all end up being "protected" from everyday vitamins, minerals, supplements or anything that the powers that be deem as "bad" or "roid-like" for our own good.......

TheMM · #8 December 26th, 2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by redwolf64

I have to agree, Dallas. It's all part of the whole War on Drugs.

It's getting pretty bad when some police officers are doing steroids to be able to be strong and muscled enough to do their jobs and the drugs themselves are classified in the same terms as heroin. It's just really out of whack.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with steroids in professional sports. No matter what anyone says about "protecting the children", these guys aren't role models and the high-stakes money involved doesn't make sports something to be looked at as exactly morally pure.

Amen. That pretty much takes my whole view on the matter.

Feh, professional athletes aren't looked up to that much (or so it seems IMO) these days by children anymore. They mostlly look up to their thinner-then bones actresses and skinny ass singers.