TP of Husky pup

[racecar_202]

Look at this!

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[hottiestudboi]

HOT! probly the first time ive ever been boned by an animal before.

[SMGF]

I know exactly where Racecar got those from, and he's missing a 9th pic......

And I doubt you should be posting those without permission from the artist

[Cai]

where is the author's site?

those pictures are great!

[overusedclassic]

I know that at least 3 of the 4 comics that you posted are straight from the furry group.
If people like you are posting these everywhere, then people like Thunderpaws might be more reluctant to enter the comic contest next time around.



But man oh man, it's too bad that you don't have the last one because it totally makes the comic on it's own. It shows that big cock rock hard and dripping...

[hottiestudboi]

Originally posted by Cai
where is the author's site?

those pictures are great!

wow, do u guy know where i can get a link?

[overusedclassic]

Here's his main website, (click on STUDS obviously)
http://www.furfolk.com/~thunderpaws/

and here's a somewhat hidden section,
http://www.furfolk.com/~thunderpaws/sketches/

enjoy~*

[tester26]

Originally posted by overusedclassic
I know that at least 3 of the 4 comics that you posted are straight from the furry group.
If people like you are posting these everywhere, then people like Thunderpaws might be more reluctant to enter the comic contest next time around.



But man oh man, it's too bad that you don't have the last one because it totally makes the comic on it's own. It shows that big cock rock hard and dripping...

Where can you find the last panel and get moreof Thunderpaw's art? (Besides his site)

[Mad Dog]

The problem is, Thunderpaws' ninth page isn't up on the group. :b

[Cai]

does anyone know where you can get the ninth picture?

or any other comics like this one?

[racecar_202]

Look what I found the 9th pic!

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[Thunderpaws]

Somebody told me that my artwork has been posted on here without my permission, that pisses right off.

I was actually considering to upload and share my art with this forum/group, but now it's turned me right off, well done racecar_202, what you did has ruined it for everyone else.

I would have been happy to upload the pictures if I had been asked or suggested to. But it's too late for that, I think I'll just keep my art to myself from now on, pull my site down and delete all my stuff on each group I'm on if this stuff is going to keep on happening. It just makes me so angry!

Sorry to all you guys who like my pictures, but thanks to racecar_202, you all now miss out!

Thunderpaws

[IceWolf]

Ok,

I've spoken to this group once about stealing artwork from other artists and groups. First it was an artist who stole images from azrial, nudog, and myself and made a comic. And now you're posting entries from the comic contest from MY yahoo group.

racecar_202 you have been banned from my group, and i'm going to heavily monitor this website in the future for more theft. You know if you people would ASK to post our works we would have NO PROBLEMS with saying yes. BUT things have changed a bit. I'm going to be very reluctant on that decision now.

IceWolf

[musclefreak4559]

I am ashamed at the way you both are taking this. You people do this as a hobby and should be flattered that people are enjoying your work. Sure it is stealing but if you read some of the comments people enjoy your work . Thanks to you two I am not ever going to visit any of you or your contributers sites. I am asking other members of this site to do the same.

You are supposed to do this for the sake of fun. You have lost the point of being an artist.

In short I'd rather mastubate to Salvador Dali or Pablo Picasso than look at your work right now.

[Thunderpaws]

You said it, it is 'stealing' anothers personal artwork, I know that many artists are sensative about where their art ends up. I am not one of them, and I do appreciate when people ask me if they and post a link to my art, wherever I keep it, not take it and spread it all over the web, like it is their own!

Do this for fun huh? Some furry artists do it for a living, steeling their art takes food off the table for them, and I know that at least two of the comics that were stolen, are from artists who live of their work. Sure we love to do it, but for some, it's the only form of income they have!

You can go ahead pull yourself over whatever you want, I know of at least one person on this forum who notified me about the stolen artworks, which I thank him very much for bringing to the attention of the group. Which show's there are some decent minded people here, who like and show concern about content from artists and writers when it's taken from them and abused.

Have a nice day!
Thunderpaws

[musclefreak4559]

hey there everybody i'm matt i'm the brother of musclefreak4559
i must apologize for the problems he's caused i know there are good decent peole who know better than to steal other peoples artwork.

i respect people copying the artwork but when you post it on a site like this without letting them know is wrong.

you all who do this should be ashamed of yourselves.

if you want to show the artwork please ask permission if they say yes than go ahead if they say no then go on with your life

and last but not least if you do copy images and make a comic of them keep it to yourself and jack off to it in private but if you want to make it public at least ask the owners of the pictures for permission like i said before, to let them know that you like their artwork so much that you made something special to honor these true geniuses

thank you goodnight and god bless america

[polomuscle]

nothing should be posted without permission, obviously. go ahead and ban the perpetrator, or whatever is supposed to be done according to the rules of this site.
BUT i am glad these cartoons/drawings were posted, because 1) i had NEVER seen them before and 2) they are hot!!! so, praises to the artist! would love to see more here on the evolution forum where (i think) they belong.
$0.02

[Bull]

Anyone who posts things on the web without realizing that it will soon be all over the place is a complete moron.

[carlobonomelli]

I agree with musclefreak4559 even if I won't boycott sites.

I only want to write clear my thinking when I post artworks:

1) Pictures were taken from public sites (not from members areas)
2) I have never erased logo or the name of the artist.
3) I always mentioned from where the pic was taken (links to the sites)
4) I never manipulated to get my own drawings.
5) I know many artists I like and I could take their names for me but if I post some works I make it only as a sort of advertisement*.
6) I don't think that if one artist want a controlled diffusion of his works he will post in public sites.

*Some artists do customs artwork for $. I think their interest is to come in contact with much people.

But at the end, if my thinking is against the willing of an artist, I can't help to accept this.

Carlo

I started out viewing this thread saying "hey this stuff's pretty good". But it took me just a few seconds to realise I recognized the style if not the artist. Now that the shit has hit the fan I totally agree with the artists who replied. Copying or even tracing and altering other peoples original art and passing it off as your own isn't cool!

At the very least giving credit to the original artist would be expected. Asking permission isn't hard and you just might make a new friend.

Passing someone else's work off as your own on the web is just plain stupid, you're going to get caught! Once caught, "bam" there goes your credibility. Like my father said. "Trust is obtained easily only once".

Don't think you can hide behind a pseudonym, anybody with a reason and a little work can determine who you really are, and if they have a significant legal reason, you can be in deep shit.

-- LeatherGryphon --

[ottomun6]

I'm going to agree with LG on this.
Its easy to come up reasons for using someone's work.

But the simple bare fact is:

Ask first.

[fleXodus]

I've removed the images from this and other threads related to this issue.

If you do not have permission to post an image you found elsewhere online, simply post a link to it so visitors can go to the link and explore it for themselves.

This not only saves MuscleGrowth.org bandwidth expenses, but also allows visitors to explore the material within its original context. Thanks guys.

~flexodus

[sexiscriptor]

I agree wholeheartedly. Seriously, it's just not fair to the people who have slaved away to make these magnificent creations for their works to be just posted higgledy piggledy all over the web without proper credit given. Whether they make a living off of their beautiful works or not is irrelevent; what matters is that they have put a piece of themselves, a piece of their pride and their time, into making these amazing images. To just copy and paste without permission is rude, cruel, and insensitive.
These people are good at what they do and have the right to be proud of their work, as with any person who has ever created something.
Writers for this or any site: how would you feel if I stole one of your stories and posted it on another site under my name? I'm sure you wouldn't be best please if you saw everyone praising my skilled prose when you know that you yourself had be the one who wrote it first. Just the same, these artists have a right to be outraged if they feel so inclined when they find that their grand and awesome efforts have been carelessly posted permission-less on other sites.

Sexi Scriptor, scribens cum iratus factus sit

[viamanmax]

The basic idea of the internet is free propagation of information. If a person does not want there information shared they should put it on the net in a protected method so that people can't take it.

I do not see a problem in someone spredding your product if you are giving it away anyway. If you are selling it then a person should not give it away ever.

[sexiscriptor]

However true that may be, that doesn't stop anyone from asking the creator. Having asked, a simple link to the original site allows anyone else to contact the creator as well.
It's courteous and polite to ask someone, even tho they'll probably say yes. If you ask, they can be aware of it and can even help in other ways as well (ie, link to our site if they want to do so).
It's respectful to the people who make these pictures and stories and comics at least to let them know and to ask for permission.

A street vendor puts his wares on a cart trying to advertise his product or his skill he believes in the honesty of his environment yet he does not walk away from his cart and leave it unwatched.

If someone were to come along and filch a few items from his cart and setup another cart right next to him (or even down the street a way) someone is evenutally going to notice the unique products being given away by someone not entitled to them.

Civilized behavior includes wise consideration of the thought: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

Don't try the "the internet is all about free trade" argument. It's a falacy. The internet promotes free access to information but it is not about free information, nor is it about free product.

A person who has invested time and energy into creating a unique product or a compilation of product (a photo collection) or a compilation of information (an encyclopedia), has a right to legal protection for that product. If every producer locked his wares away in a safe we'd never see it at all, so why bother creating it?

The internet is pretty lenient about this issue but there are lines we shouldn't cross. Artists and other producers have web sites to attract attention to themselves for potential fame or profit. Their websites often contain other information about their products or their skills or their friends. They want people to come directly to them.

Regardless of legalities, there is still the issue of etiquette. It's just smart to not piss off people who produce things you want. It's not smart to piss off people who could be denied services from someone because of something you do to someone else.

Artists don't like being dismissed as irrelevant.

The real success in the world is about friendships. Either you cultivate worthy friends or you dig a hole you'll never rise out of and will eventually destroy you. It just isn't smart to piss off people that have made no direct attack at you. It isn't smart to piss off people that you don't know how powerful they are. It isn't smart to piss off people who may know a lot of people you woudn't want pissed at you.

...Yes, copying images is done all the time, but once an artist or vendor or producer or whatever makes it known that possession of his product was not given without his permision and is disapproved of, then that's it! Everybody along the transfer of possession is subject to whatever legal pressure or social pressure he is entitled to and wants to pursue. Best to just apologize, cease and desist, and hope the issue goes away. Whereas asking for permission ahead of time could have made another worthy friend...

[viamanmax]

Did he put a copyright or a contractual obligation before the picture?

And stealing from a cart on the street is fundamentally different since that involves resale of a commercial (aka for sale) product, yet redistribution of a nonclaimed piece of intellectual property that is not of a commercial nature has always been an allowed part of social freedoms.

If he wants control of it stake a legal claim or use a encrypted, protected web presence.

[overusedclassic]

I remember a while back I wanted to post some of NuDog's stuff,
so I just e-mailed him, it took less than 5 minutes,
and he was very pleased that I contacted him about it.
He also seemed like a really nice guy, so I was glad that I did so.

That was of course after I posted some of IceWolf's work without asking
http://www.musclegrowth.org/forum/sh...=&threadid=635
Ya, so I was stupidly in a similar situation, the only differences here were that racecar_202 posted almost every piece of work from a particular groups comic contest, and of course, I realized that I was wrong and apologized (did racecar_202 even have the decency?).

I hope that everyone can get over this. I was excited to see furry art on this board again, and don't want to see it gone forever.
And to the artists that were insulted, I hope that you all continue your work. I'm not sure that you realize how much joy you bring some of us.

Over~*

[musclefreak4559]

hey it's matt again i hate to change the subject but where exactly can i find those pictures since they're not on this thread anymore
and don't worry i won't steal them and post them on a muscle growth message board like some people the only things i take without permission are my brothers stuff and he gets very angry too