Muscle Boy Eye Candy At Work

[jfrdricks63]

Well today out of the blue that muscle boy that I had my eye on all of a sudden strikes up a conversation with me and later that day he asked if he could borrow a 10 spot until friday. thats a sure sign that he is interested. naturally I obliged him. it may be wrong but hey muscle is muscle right?

[kezzz]

What's a "10 spot"? Oh and... how I wish there's such a guy in my workplace!

[charmcitywop]

Ten US dollars.

[Mad Dog]

At least it's a sure sign he's interested in your money. :|

[brent]

Well it's not much money if he's that hot!

[/\/\usclekid]

You are probably going to get beat up or killed. A lot of gay men mistakely succumb to the advances of straight males because they are self-hating and only want straight males as partners. I've read so many reports of gay men getting beat up or killed because they believed a guy was interested in them. The police then label the crime a robbery because the guy always takes something but that's not his intent. His intent is to kill a gay man. Asking for money is a sign he knows you are gay and weak.

[nypup2train]

Originally Posted by //usclekid

You are probably going to get beat up or killed. A lot of gay men mistakely succumb to the advances of straight males because they are self-hating and only want straight males as partners. I've read so many reports of gay men getting beat up or killed because they believed a guy was interested in them. The police then label the crime a robbery because the guy always takes something but that's not his intent. His intent is to kill a gay man. Asking for money is a sign he knows you are gay and weak.

Oh for god's sake.

It's insane, absolutely inappropriate, and disturbingly alarmist to come out with a statement like "you are probably going to get beat up or killed" based solely on what's been said in this thread so far. I find it personally distateful to see that sort of negativity spread, and to be honest it makes me more than a little concerned for you. I can't help but worry that you've been through some sort of really difficult experiences in your own life, to assume the worst so easily, without any kind of sufficient cause.

If your personal experiences have left you seeing the world so bleakly, then they must have been extremely difficult for you... I'm truly sorry. It's understandable that it might be hard to trust, to see anything but potential danger at every turn. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to go through life needing to remain so guarded, even isolated.

By and large, the world around us (well, the US at least -- and I hope we aren't so different from the rest of the world, but haven't had the opportunity to personally explore) is something to be embraced, enjoyed, and explored -- not feared! And generally, most people we meet are simply doing exactly that, in their own lives, without intending others any harm.

*YES*, yes, absolutely there is NO DENYING that the sort of terrible, scary things you've mentioned... that sort of thing DOES AND COULD HAPPEN. Terrible, frightening attacks and violence actually happen far, far too often. (Even ONE time is far too often,) It's important to be alert, and consider the risks we take when we can't be sure what another person's intentions are. Sadly, someone's intentions being unfriendly or even hostile is a possibility.

A remote, unlikely possibility -- one to be wary of, but absolutely not the one that will "PROBABLY" occur!!!

(I mean, hell -- statistically, what could the percentages possibly be here? Among everyone who's asked to lend $10 to a person they don't know very well, how many end up being brutally attacked by that same person? 0.001% maybe? Perhaps as high as 0.05%? Quick, lock your doors and start a ribbon-awareness campaign!! No-one is safe!!!)

Or... maybe, just maybe... the only thing we can safely assume about someone who's borrowed $10, is that we'll at least learn whether or not we can trust them to pay back the money. I think, at least most of the time, $10 wouldn't be a terrible risk to take.

There are just so many possibilities for what anyone we meet could eventually become in our life -- a fast friend, a surprise connection, a worthy adversary, an unhappy memory, a painful loss, an unhealthy obsession, a soul-mate, room-mate, or band-mate... someone who defies easy description, or perhaps nobody at all, forgotten entirely.

It doesn't seem fair to let fear spoil any chance of finding out!

[jfrdricks63]

Chances are he is just some guy short of money and just took a chance and asked if I could help him out. Plus, the job we are in you have to have a background check with the department of justice so I dont think he is a criminal of some sort.

[/\/\usclekid]

nypup, it's reality. There are very few statistics concerning crimes against gay people so we don't know what situations are dangerous. READ THIS ARTICLE, it will give you an idea about what situations are dangerous:

http://www.chronline.org/PDFs/Expres...%20Article.pdf

The article talks exclusively about older gay men but it applies to all gay men.

[mordre_t]

Your original post was still full of sensationalist hyperbole. There's just no cause to say "you're probably going to get beat up or killed." Probably? That implies chances significantly in excess of 50%; 'probably' to me means it's at least 80-85% likely to happen. Approximately 3% of men self-identify as primarily or exclusively homosexual. All gay men would be dead in a few decades if every public flirtation ended meant "you're probably going to get beat up or killed."

Just don't be alone with strangers, keep your wits about you, and trust your intuition. But you should do all of those things if you're not gay, too. It's just good common sense.

[abbraxis]

... well... this thread went places I didn't expect.

I just want to echo what mordre_said... cause it's whorth repeating: "Just don't be alone with strangers, keep your wits about you, and trust your intuition. But you should do all of those things if you're not gay, too. It's just good common sense."

[kezzz]

Originally Posted by abbraxis

... well... this thread went places I didn't expect.

I just want to echo what mordre_said... cause it's whorth repeating: "Just don't be alone with strangers, keep your wits about you, and trust your intuition. But you should do all of those things if you're not gay, too. It's just good common sense."

And I thirdly concurring this thought too! practise your common sense. Take good care! And if the situation turned out great for you, do let us know too. But most importantly stay safe!

[Username3]

I don't think someone asking you to borrow something from you is a sign that he's interested. But, who knows?

I say just go for it.
What's the worst thing that can happen?
Well, getting beaten up or killed. But that's the worst thing.

[Stoneman]

Originally Posted by //usclekid

You are probably going to get beat up or killed. A lot of gay men mistakely succumb to the advances of straight males because they are self-hating and only want straight males as partners. I've read so many reports of gay men getting beat up or killed because they believed a guy was interested in them. The police then label the crime a robbery because the guy always takes something but that's not his intent. His intent is to kill a gay man. Asking for money is a sign he knows you are gay and weak.

Is that it then? Is that the prevailing theory? We fall for straight guys because we're self-hating? I hate to imagine that I'm supposed to be attracted to be gay guys, but am not because of a psychological condition.

[BigLittleTim]

Dear jfrdricks63,

Without descending into hyperbole, I would like to encourage you to use common prudence and caution. You seem like a very inteligent person, so I'm not so much concerned for your safety, as I am for your self esteem and self respect. You seem to be very attracted to this fellow, and I'm sure he's picked up on that. There are many people; gay and straight; women as well as men, who use their good looks and charm to get money and favors out of their admirerers. I've seen friends (as well as experiencing it myself) taken in by gorgeous grifters and confidence men. As a friend of mine said: "A gay man with a stiff dick has very little... sales resistance."

Please let us know when he pays back the ten bucks. Handsome often isn't as handsome does.

Good luck,

BigLittleTim

[tojfs7931]

If he doesn't pay him back then probably a good sign not to loan him any more money in the future.

[BigLittleTim]

Originally Posted by jfrdricks63

... he asked if he could borrow a 10 spot until friday. thats a sure sign that he is interested.... it may be wrong but hey muscle is muscle right?

Dear jfrdricks63,

A second set of observations, my friend:

1. Someone asking to borrow ten bucks isn't, by any stretch of the imagination, a sign that the loanee is sexually attracted to the loaner.

2. You loaned the money to him because he is muscular; the implication being that if he were not muscular you would have been more guarded and perhaps declined the loan.

3. WHO needs to borrow ten bucks?

-BigLittletim

[mslheet]

I have to add my opinion to this. Anyone who would chat someone up and immediately borrow money is showing themselves to be, if not a hustler, then a sort of boy-toy - mentality like knows he is eye-candy and should get an easy ride for being so. May not be dangerous but pretty likely is a "user".

[Dan]

So what ever happened with the guy at work? Did he pay you back?

[nj.]

Originally Posted by Dan

So what ever happened with the guy at work? Did he pay you back?

Following the theories in this thread, the thread starter should be in hospital right now, and the other guy is either on a plane to Rio or awaiting trial.

[jfrdricks63]

BTW- Just so you guys dont freak out and think something has happened to me i am still alive.

[/\/\usclekid]

One in four gay people report being physically assaulted because they are gay in their lifetime. Most gay victims of physical assault never report their experience because they fear anti-gay prejudice from authorities or they just want to move on. So atleast half of all gay people are physically assaulted in their lifetime. Those that commit anti-gay physical assaults on gay people are almost always straight males.

Self-hatred is a major problem with gay people. Along with anti-gay prejudice self-hatred is the main reason why gay people are more likely to smoke, drink, have depression, commit suicide, perform risky sexual acts, have few friends, etc. than straight people. Self-hatred is also the reason why gay men purposefully choose straight males over gay males as desirable even if the gay males have all the qualities gay men want and the straight males don't. A large segment of the gay male population find being straight desirable and being gay undesirable. The gay porn industry is a representation of this.

Gay men in general have higher levels of free testosterone than straight males. Free testosterone gives males their gender typical attributes like a deep voice, dense bones, angular facial features etc. Gay men also have larger penises than straight men.

[abbraxis]

You gonna source any of that... or just float it like it's fact?

[TheMM]

Originally Posted by abbraxis

You gonna source any of that... or just float it like it's fact?

I agree, don't just type something up without having proof. Show us some links, or articles about this.

[/\/\usclekid]

[COLOR=white]You as gay people should know this stuff already for your own well being. When you know better you do better.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Anti-Gay Violence[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]??24% report physical attacks because of their sexual orientation.?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2751155?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.P ubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]?Trends cannot be assessed, however, because most antigay hate crimes are never reported??[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15982145?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDr ugs1[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Self-Hatred[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]?A growing body of research implicates internalized homophobia--the internalization of society's antihomosexual sentiments by gay and lesbian people--as a factor contributing to HIV-related sexual risk behavior in gay and bisexual men.?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12054033?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDr ugs1[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]?Results indicate that internalized homophobia, particularly negative feelings towards one's own homosexuality, accounts for 18% of the variance in depressive scores and 13% of anxiety scores??[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15868835?ordinalpos=43&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez .Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Suicide[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]?lesbian, gay, and bisexual respondents reported higher rates of suicidal ideation and suicide attempts than did heterosexual respondents??[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17901445?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Depression[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]??depression in men who have sex with men was 17.2%, higher than in adult U.S. men in general.?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14754777?ordinalpos=65&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez .Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Smoking[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]?Our study provides the strongest evidence to date that lesbians, bisexual females, and gay men had significantly higher cigarette smoking prevalence rates than their heterosexual counterparts.?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15456993?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDr ugs1[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Drinking[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]?These findings suggest that alcohol dependence and alcohol-related consequences differ by sexual orientation, particularly among women.?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15830911?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDr ugs1[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Free Testosterone[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]There have been many studies that have found that gay men have higher levels of free testosterone in humans and animals.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]"gay men are hypermasculinized... higher than normal levels of testosterone circulating in the blood, and larger genitalia than heterosexual men."[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000330094644.htm[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]Penis Length[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]These two articles talk about two studies that found gay men have larger penises than straight men. I know of another study that found the same results but I can?t find an article for that one.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=white]??homosexual men reported larger penises than did heterosexual men.?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://dailydish.typepad.com/the_daily_dish/2006/12/gay_peepees.html[/COLOR]
[COLOR=yellow]http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2006/12/stats_and_willi.html[/COLOR]