Ideas on mass building for future BB

[slick1980]

I am looking for some advice on how to start adding more mass to become what I would call an average BB---Ronnie Coleman's size is great, but not for me. I am looking for more the ametur build.

I am 27, 6 ft, 200 lbs, work out 4 days/wk. I have been lifting weights for probably 12 years, but never to put on serious muscle, more so to just stay in shape. I travel a lot for my job--day trips, so eating right is sometimes hard. I try to eat atleast 4 times a day, but I know that my nutrition is poor. Part of my problem is not knowing what to eat and when, I know I could do better even with me traveling extensively. I am ready to grow though now and to get serious about putting on muscle.

Ideas for workouts and nutrition plans? Thanks for your help guys. I hope to be one of the guys everyone is raving about in 12-18 months.

[Alecjones]

Ideas for mass building, this one has been going round and around for many years and the the best mass builders are basic foundation work , like your squats ,cleans, front press, bent over rowes, bench press ,but not many like doing this type of training it is to hard and it does not look fancey ,but these work plus your 6 meals a day drink plenty of water get plenty of sleep which is very inportant , most people are hard gainers so three times a week no more then 45 minutes each work out ,remember basics build mass one week barbells the next week dumbells ,and remember train smart .
Regards Alec

[chocomus]

Nutricion thingy can be tricky. It depends on your body type and metabolism. You can look around and people will tell you what they do, but i guess the best is to look for a profesional sports nutricionist. I'm still looking for one myself, lol.

Good luck

[FRNKPBDY]

Slick:

Hee are a few tips (in no particular order) I've used to help pack on some muscle.

1. Food

Here is a compilation of things that you should have on your grocery list (you may pick and choose the foods in those categories that you like):

Proteins:

Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
Tuna (water packed)
Fish (salmon, sea bass, halibut)
Shrimp
Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
Protein Powder
Egg Whites or Eggs
Rib Eye Steaks
Top Round Steaks or Roast (aka Stew Meat, London Broil, Stir Fry)
Top Sirloin (aka Sirloin Top Butt)
Beef Tenderloin (aka Filet, Filet Mignon)
Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
Flank Steak (Sir Fry, Fajita)
Eye of Round (Cube Meat, Stew Meat, Bottom Round, 96% Lean Ground Round)
Ground turkey, Turkey Breast Slices or cutlets (fresh meat, not deli cuts)

Complex Carbs:

Oatmeal (Old Fashioned or Quick Oats)
Sweet Potatoes (Yams)
Beans (pinto, black, kidney)
Oat Bran Cereal
Brown Rice
Farina (Cream of Wheat)
Multigrain Hot Cereal
Pasta
Rice (white, jasmine, basmati, Arborio, wild)
Potatoes (red, baking, new)

Fibrous Carbs:

Green Leafy Lettuce (Green Leaf, Red, Leaf, Romaine)
Broccoli
Asparagus
String Beans
Spinach
Bell Peppers
Brussels Sprouts
Cauliflower
Celery

Other Produce & Fruits:

Cucumber
Green or Red Pepper
Onions
Garlic
Tomatoes
Zucchini
Fruit (if acceptable on diet): bananas, apples, grapefruit, peaches, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries
Lemons or Limes

Healthy Fats:

Natural Style Peanut Butter or Almond Butter
Olive Oil, Safflower Oil, Almond Oil, Flaxseed Oil
Nuts (peanuts, almonds, walnut)
Nuts and seeds (butternuts, flaxseeds, walnuts, soybeans) - Omega-3
Fatty coldwater fish (mackerel, salmon, bluefish, mullet, sablefish) - EPA and DHA
More fish (menhaden, anchovy, herring, lake trout, sardines, tuna) - EPA and DHA
Olive, Canola, and Peanut - Monounsaturated Oils
Safflower, Sunflower, Corn, Soybean, and Cottonseed - Polyunsaturated Oils
Leafy veggies, seeds, nuts, grains - Omega-6
Veggie oils (Safflower, Sunflower, Corn, Soybean, and Cottonseed), and poultry fat - Omega-6
Oils (canola, flaxseed, soybean, walnut, wheat germ; canola or soybean oil) - Omega-3

Dairy & Eggs:

Low-fat cottage cheese
Eggs
Low or Non-Fat Milk

Calories & Meals:

While bulking you want to eat more calories (more than maintenance) and also eat more often. So in essence, you will be eating smaller meals than you would if you were only eating three each day (like normal humans). These meals will consist of protein, carbs, and fats.

It doesn't have to be anything big; it could be something as simple as an apple with peanut butter. But you should strive for at least 6-8 small meals a day. By eating more often you will have a constant supply of fuel throughout the day which is a constant supply of nutrients to your muscles to help them grow.

Not only will it do that, but it will also help keep your metabolism up so you don't start adding body fat. You should also be striving for 1-2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight you have. So if you weigh 150 pounds, you want to get between 150-300 grams of protein a day. Each of these meals can be spread out 2-3 hours apart.


2. Supplements

Here is a list of supplements which are great anytime of the year, including while bulking. Note, I do not recommend supplementation for anyone under the age of 18, nor is supplementation a replacement to a good diet:

Whey Protein (Concentrate Or Isolate):

Protein is the building block for muscle. Without it, you won't make the gains you are looking for. You can use whey protein at anytime of the day and it won't hurt you. There are many different brands and flavors out there, find one that suits your taste buds and isn't overly priced.

You can use it pre-workout, post-workout, as a snack, or add some fruit and throw it in the blender to it and use it as a meal replacement. It is a quick and easy way to get your daily protein intake.

Casein Protein:

Casein protein is the best protein you can get to keep you anabolic throughout the night. It is a slow digesting protein which slowly breaks down over a span of around 6-8 hours. The last thing you want to do is go into a catabolic state and lose your hard-earned gains. This protein comes in especially handy before bed when compared to whey.

Multivitamin:

It is a necessity to purchase a good multivitamin. You need to get proper vitamins and minerals which you can't get from food alone. A multivitamin is essential to help with everyday activities and give you exactly what your body needs to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

Creatine:

Creatine will help you not only recover better, but it will help you gain some lean mass quicker. Creatine is one of the most widely studied supplements out on the market today. There are no harmful effects from creatine and it can be used safely before and after workouts. Creatine can safely be used for both pre and post workout. There is no need to do a loading phase nor cycle creatine.

Fish Oil:

Fish oil gives you EFA's which are the "good fats" that we all need. Fatty acids are a necessity which most people don't understand. They are important for cellular, heart, and metabolic health. We do not get enough "good fats" in our diet each day so supplementing with fish oil is a must.


Amino Acids:

Amino acids are the building blocks for protein. Without protein, gains are minimized. Amino acids are also used to help the brain function properly. Everyone needs BCAA's to help build muscle and recover. Yes, protein powder has amino acids in them, but look at the nutrition label and if they are in low doses, then it is best to get yourself some BCAA's.

3. Compound Movements

Compound movements are what makes you grow. Isolation movements are more for shaping of muscles rather than jacking up the growth hormones in your body and gaining some mass. Compound movements are the squats, deadlifts, barbell presses, military presses, and similar movements.
They are any movement that requires more than one muscle to execute an exercise. These are the foundation to bodybuilding and bulking.

4. Rest

It's a fact that you don't grow while in the gym. You grow while you rest outside of the gym. Sure when you have a nice hard pump in the gym and your muscles are swollen and look larger you think your getting bigger and bigger by each set. You are incorrect. That nice pump that we all long for is only temporary.

After about an hour those effects start to diminish and you will be about the same size as you were before you stepped into the gym that day. You need to rest your muscles and get adequate sleep at night to help increase growth hormones in your body which in turn help you gain lean muscle mass. You should be getting no less than 8 hours of sleep a night. Anything less and you will be cutting yourself short with your gains.


5. Post-Workout Meal


Post-workout meals are very important. You can think of it as an old coal train. You throw a whole bunch of coal in to start the train and then you stop giving it coals, what eventually happens? The train stops. Same goes with your body. The food you eat pre-workout gets used as fuel for the body during exercise.

Then as your workout comes to an end, the fuel has surely run out and it will be starving for more to grow. If you don't feed your body, it can't grow. And it is especially needed post-workout because that is when your body absorbs nutrients best.

Your body is literally starving for nutrients at the end of your workout and if you don't feed it then it simply can't repair itself and grow.

The post-workout meal you need to be taking in around 45-50 grams of protein. Add in one to two times that amount of carbohydrates (90-100 grams). If you are a hard-gainer, make it closer to 2 with most all of them coming from simple sources. If you tend to gain weight easily, then it's better to stay closer to the equivalent of the amount of protein and make it half simple, half complex sources.

6. Keep Cardio To A Minimum

This one isn't rocket science; you don't need a Ph.D. to understand. Obviously when you do cardio, you use up fuel (calories). Calories are what you need to grow. You take away calories, you take away gains. Now I'm not saying to stop cardio all together, because you don't need to.

Cardio is actually a good way to keep from putting on body fat during a bulking phase and an excellent way to keep the heart healthy.

Cardio also increases your appetite so you will be able to down some extra calories to make up for the loss you experienced during your workout. You can get away with doing some low intensity cardio without losing lean mass gains so do not be afraid to do cardio while bulking.

7. Increase Your Calories


In order to gain weight (muscle), you must increase your calories. This does not mean you can eat McDonald's or Wendy's every meal since you would be increasing your calories. You could do that, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you want to look like a blimp.

An easy way to do this (especially if you are stuck at the same weight) is to track your calories. When you find out how many calories you are eating which maintaining your weight, add 250-500 calories each day and by the end of the week see if you gained any weight.

Don't forget that 3500 calories is equal to one pound. So theoretically, if you increased your calories by 500 each day for a week you should gain a pound. Now let me explain something to you, this isn't as easy as you may think. You can't just eat some Twinkies or eat a cake.
No, No, No! You still need to be eating clean to ensure you don't gain fat. Yes, during your bulking phase, you will gain some fat. But do not get worried about this unless you are gaining a lot of fat in which case you need to look at your diet and clean it up more. It would be a smart idea for you to write down your weight once a week on the same day and at the same time.

This will help with the accuracy of your results. You can also get your body fat measured once a week to see how much fat you are gaining. Like I mentioned before, if you are gaining a lot of fat, re-evaluate your diet.

8. Water

Water is a key no matter what you are trying to accomplish. Staying hydrated increase protein synthesis so you will make better use of the protein you ingest. Water is also a good way to stay hydrated without adding all the sugary drinks like soda and tea.

Strive for at least a gallon of water a day. If you sweat a lot during your workout you definitely should be striving for more than a gallon a day. An easy way to track your water intake is to carry around a gallon jug wherever you go.

When it's empty, you know you got your gallon in. At that point you can refill and start over. Water also keeps your metabolism up due to the oxygen content in the water. No one was ever killed by overdosing on water, so drink up!

9. Training

Most people have the mentality that more is better. This is not the case with training. Most of the time the people who have that mindset are overtraining and in turn minimizing their gains. Depending on your exercise level, you could train smartly with 3-6 days in the gym.

You want to keep your workouts short but intense. This means that you should ideally keep your workouts less than 1 hour. Anything more and you are lowering your natural testosterone levels which you don't want to do. The key is to experiment and find out what training style works best for your body.

Mass Gain Workouts:

Some people respond very well to lower rep sets while others find higher reps sets are the way to go. Some people can get away with a low number of sets while some people need to complete many sets to get results. I would actually recommend starting with lower sets, evaluate your progress and adjust it accordingly.

If you find you aren't growing with the number of sets you are doing, gradually increase the sets and see how you respond to that. When it comes down to it, there really is no one way to train. Everyone is different. The fun part is trying new things to see what works best for you.

If building the body of your dreams was easy, then everyone would look good. It takes hard work and determination. Keep training hard and never be afraid to switch things up. Hitting the muscle differently is what sparks new growth which is what I'm sure everyone is trying to accomplish.

10. Have Fun!

For most of us, bodybuilding isn't our full-time job. And for majority of us, that is a good thing. Being a professional bodybuilder isn't for everyone. The determination and hard work isn't for the faint at heart. Sure, anyone can say they are a bodybuilder, but to be good at it, you need to stick with it.

You need to find something that motivates you and go with it. Set some short and long term goals for yourself and check on your progress and re-evaluate things. Make things fun, try new things. You do not want to dread going to the gym every day.

By evaluating your progress and seeing the improvements, that should be enough to make you want to keep hitting the gym. Sure there are days where everything around you is going wrong and you really don't feel like going to the gym, but once you are there everything changes.

The weights don't complain, they don't yell at you (unless you have some serious mental issues). It's a great way to release stress. Bodybuilding isn't just a weekly or monthly thing. Bodybuilding is a lifestyle. Where it takes you, no one knows. But what do you have to lose by having fun in the process? Living the bodybuilding lifestyle is a great way to stay healthy and achieving the body you always wanted.

Hope this helps!

FP

[slick1980]

Thanks for the feedback. I am ready to see what I can do by concentrating on both the nutritional and mental aspect of bodybuilding.

[DarthFlex]

I will add that there are 3 very important times to take in protein during the day to make sure there is an ample supply of amino acids for muscle growth at all times.

First, take in protein within half an hour of waking up (after 8 hours of fasting while asleep). Never lift weights before eating something (though cardio is okay for fat burning upon arising).

Second, take in protein and good carbs within an hour after lifting weights. A protein shake immediately to tide you over till a full meal an hour after lifting is good.

Third, right before bed have a protein shake containing slow-acting casein, with some creatine and/or flaxseed oil thrown in.

I want to add that my favorite authors on here are luvyalots and John D.

[inflated]

Good advice all around

Also make the main three lifts the core of your workout program
Squats---the most important exercise
Deadlifts--great for overall strength and thickness
Bench--a foundation for upper body strength and size