Anyone watch early show today? 10/21

[Maverick0095875]

They brought up a thing about supplement companies marketing illegal steroids as a dietary nutritional supplements and a couple about 15 or so 19 yr old's who've taken the supplement have developed cancer. It was called trans extreme. Ironically thought these company's have telephone number on their products but its the FDA adverse side effects hot line lol

[BIGJOEY]

there is no direct test to prove anabolics cause cancer. they mnight be a contributing factor but not the main cause and most supplements are not designed for teens. they all say that on the bottle. Most people have something that will cause cancer in them. i refer you to the enclosed article

Christopher Caldwell, writing recently in The Wall Street Journal, proclaimed, "Doctors are unanimous that [anabolic steroids] increase the risk of heart disease, and of liver, kidney, prostate and testicular cancer."

This is false. "We know steroids can be used with a reasonable measure of safety," says Charles Yesalis, a Penn State epidemiologist, steroid researcher for more than 25 years, and author of the 1998 book The Steroids Game. "We know this because they?re used in medicine all the time, just not to enhance body image or improve athletic performance." Yesalis notes that steroids were first used for medical purposes in the 1930s, some three decades before the current exacting standards of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) were in place.

Even so, anabolic steroids or their derivatives are commonly used to treat breast cancer and androgen deficiencies and to promote red blood cell production. They are also used in emerging anti-aging therapies and to treat surgical or cancer

patients with damaged muscle tissue.

Caldwell cites one of the most common fears: that anabolics cause liver cancer. There is dubious evidence linking oral anabolics to liver tumors, but athletes rarely take steroids in liquid suspension form. Users almost uniformly opt for the injectable or topical alternatives, which have chemical structures that aren?t noxious to the liver. And as Yesalis observes, even oral steroids aren?t causally linked to cancer; instead, some evidence associates them with benign liver tumors.

More specifically, it?s C-17 alkylated oral steroids that are perhaps detrimental to liver function. But the evidence is equivocal at best. A 1990 computer-assisted study of all existing medical literature found but three cases of steroid-associated liver tumors. Of those three cases, one subject had been taking outrageously large doses of C-17 oral anabolics without cessation for five years, and a second case was more indicative of classic liver malignancy. It?s also C-17 orals, and not other forms of steroids, that are associated with decreased levels of HDL, or "good" cholesterol. But, again, C-17s are almost never used for athletic or cosmetic purposes...

[FuzzyKB]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Sorry Mav, Big Joey has nailed this one you're hearing the bunch of baloney that has been spewed from the mouthes of the FDA and some other idiots for decades. If these statements had any truth to them HIV patients who are often receiving dosages of actual injectable anabolics would be dropping like flies. As time goes on and on and on the FDA and the rest are being disproven by the great number of HIV patients out there. A.) They are NOT erupting into "roid rage". B.) They are not growing prostate glands the size of basketballs. C.) They are not having their livers fall out from the anabolics either. They ARE experiencing testicular atrophy, which is treated with Beta HCG, They are experiencing body hair growth and beard growth over time.

Not long ago a young and straight physique star died of heart failure in his sleep and if I remember he was 29 at the time of his death. The "anti-roid" people all chimed in and attributed his death to steroid usage. The blood toxicology found no evidence of this, and yet there was never any retraction of the BS. What they failed to mention was that the family history for this young man was very early heart disease and it had killed numerous relatives in the blood line before their 50th birthdays.

The steroids that are really detrimental as a whole are rarely used by anyone in either HIV treatment OR by any person in bodybuilding or athletics these days. People know what works and what is safe and they know what to stay away from.

There are now even some new studies coming out of Europe which indicate that the enlargement of a male prostate is NOT due to an overabundence of DHT. In fact when the hormone levels of some of these geriatric men are normalized the prostate shrinks and does not grow. The FDA and the anti-roid-boys are using information that was valid (30 years ago). [/COLOR]