Lorenzo Becker age verification?

[bodybuilder23xx]

Lorenzo seams to be the biggest guy ever for his age but there are so many arguments about his age and was wondering if anyone can verify his age for certain? He states he was 17 on the 12 october 2009 but people refuse to beleive this because of his size, there is a 2007-2008 schooll foto on his facebook page where he looks pretty thin but maybe a link to the school site somewhere in toulous would confirm his age.

[Gymini29]

probably gonna get slammed here for saying this.. but o well.... another person who decided to take the easy way out with drug use.... maybe when google lists him as "lorenzo becker, youngest bodybuilder to die from steroid use" people will take notice and wise up.

gymini

[arpeejay]

Lorenzo's date of birth, per his Facebook page, is 2 October 1992. He could be lying but the pix of his 17th birthday party from his *Godmother*, of all people, would tend to suggest otherwise.

xoxo

Richard

I think people just need to stop freaking out about the size for his age. Yea he's really big but there's was guys at my high school close to his size. They never reached his size because they got big for football or wrestling but I can assume that they would get just as big if they would have kept up the heavy lifting. I even had a freshman at my high school that was close to lorenzo's size, he weighed a whopping 195 pounds and was 5"8, at 14 years old. Also look how huge Lee Priest was when he was 16, there's videos on this very site, he was ridiculously huge. Lorenzo also show's no signs of steroids use, people seem to keep forgetting about the signs of steroids use. Most people these days just out of jealousy just assume if a kid is young and muscled he must be using steroids. I see it all the time on youtube, an average sized jock flexing on cam, and people assume he's on steroids, its fucking pathetic. People have to understand that when your that young you are flowing with more testosterone then steroids will ever produce.

I'm sorry you guys can't believe his age

Either its you don't understand how, or you have been working out for years and haven't achieved the results he has. It sucks but some people are just lucky

Like I said look up Lee Priest when he was 16, or that crazy russian guy Alexander, He was HUGE when he was Lorzeno's age

[collegemuscle]

It is very possible that Lorenzo is actually the age he states and is completely natural. Both of those could be very much so related. At the age of 16 - 21 a male's hormones (i.e. testosterone and hgh, and igf-1 - same as steroids) are natrually raging through his system because of puberty. This is an excellent time for a young male to put on size and the results can be very impressive with the right genetics, training, and diet. I don't see any signs of steroids either.

On the same note, some people DO lie about their age to impress people of their size. I'm sure you all heard of Trey Brewer. A claimed 21 year old that bulked to 300 lbs. before his last contest. It was leaked later that he was actually 29 years old. Suddenly, his size didn't seem so impressive as there are plenty of 29 year olds out there with that kind of size. Gee, I wonder why we don't see much of him any more, lol.

[BBMikeNJ]

I wondered what happened to Trey Brewer lately.

Trey never looked 21 anyways haha, I always thought he looked 30-35. Guess I was right

[Bull]

I've known lots of guys who were as big as Lorenzo at that age, no steroids. He is also very short, which makes it muich easier to fill out his frame. And anyone who thinks steroids are "the easy way out" is ignorant. The only thing steroids do is make it possible to train much harder and more often without overtraining. There is nothing "easy" about that route to size.

[bodybuilder23xx]

I started this thread exactly because of all this tit for tat shit. I am only asking if someone can find some categorial proof of Lorenzo's age to put an end to all this yes he is no he isnt pointless arguements that go on for ever. I beleive Lorenzo was 17 in october 2009 and that he weighs over 220lbs at 5'7" and it is none of my business what he has taken to acheive his amazing physique but I would just like to be able to point out a fact about his age next time someone argues that he is in his mid twenties or something unfounded due to there inability to comprehend his size for being so young. Give the kid the credit he is due.

[cozman]

Well, here's a pic from his facebook account that he claims is his class photo from September 2009. They all look like normal and average-sized high school students and then there's massive Lorenzo. It looks pretty legit to me.

[cozman]

Just for a size comparison, I took Lorenzo and stood him next to the kid on the far left of the photo. It's unbelievable how much bigger Lorenzo is. He must be such a stud at that school.

[chocomus]

he's also one of the tallest ones!!!! i hope he's not a bully

[Geek2Jock]

Looking across the second row, they are all standing on the ground and he looks pretty average in height...

[bodybuilder23xx]

This is one of 2 school pics he has on facebook but as you can see from the mock-up that cozman did then it is very easy to fake as many will argue. I am sure his school pic is genuine but it does not tell us if this was high school college or university it was taken at. If anyone can read fluent french then perhaps they could look up Lorenzo's school as there are bount to be sports day records or something on there site. this is the school he went to, [COLOR=#3b5998]Lyc?e Marie- Louise Dissard Fran?oise 2009.[/COLOR]

[calhoun]

Why all this obsessing about the guy's age? It's neither important, or interesting.

[Gymini29]

i told you i would be jumped on

[musqlure]

Originally Posted by bodybuilder23xx

This is one of 2 school pics he has on facebook but as you can see from the mock-up that cozman did then it is very easy to fake as many will argue. I am sure his school pic is genuine but it does not tell us if this was high school college or university it was taken at. If anyone can read fluent french then perhaps they could look up Lorenzo's school as there are bount to be sports day records or something on there site. this is the school he went to, [COLOR=#3b5998]Lyc?e Marie- Louise Dissard Fran?oise 2009.[/COLOR]

I have no idea why you folks are obsessing about this guy's age. If his Facebook page gives you his age, why are you doubting it? He's got thousands of FB friends, and I assume some of them know him personally, so don't you think someone might have called him out on this if he were lying about his age?

And without trying to be too technical about it, since you all are the ones claiming he's not the age he says he is, don't you think you ought to produce some proof that would give you reason for suspicion? Or is this kind of like Obama's supposed Kenyan birth?

BTW, I speak French, and I found his school on line, and there are a good number of articles about it, but I can't access its actual web page because it keeps timing out.

[arpeejay]

As far as I can tell, NO ONE except BB23XXX is obsessing about his age, so kindly dispense with the "you folks," OK?

xoxo

Richard

[BIGJOEY]

a couple of things. If any of you ever looked at some of the teens who have done teen sections of contests it is possiable. It doesnt matter if he used or didn't use . There has not been any single death yet directally attributed to anabolics yet. As for Trey Brewer he would not have been allowed to compete in teen nationals in 2005 if he was over 20. They would have busted him as happened this year 2009. Look on Muscualrdevelopment.com in the no bull section on that story. Trey actually got to 330 before he dieted to do jr nationals in 2008. You have to remember that the pics he has been showing are off season and not contest shape. You have had teen competing when theya re 15 to 19 and some have gotten really big. Lee Priest won the Mr Australia when he was 17,18,19. he was given his pro card at 20. Sp stop worring about it and give the kid props. Look also in md contest pics and you will see some massive teens. nuff said

[gogr2]

Originally Posted by bodybuilder23xx

This is one of 2 school pics he has on facebook but as you can see from the mock-up that cozman did then it is very easy to fake as many will argue. I am sure his school pic is genuine but it does not tell us if this was high school college or university it was taken at. If anyone can read fluent french then perhaps they could look up Lorenzo's school as there are bount to be sports day records or something on there site. this is the school he went to, [COLOR=#3b5998]Lyc?e Marie- Louise Dissard Fran?oise 2009.[/COLOR]

First off "Lyc?e" is the French equivalent of High School. Though in France, they have two types of Lyc?es, "professionnels" and "d'enseignement g?n?ral/technologique". At the end of what we in the US call Junior High (8th year of school), in France they take a placement exam known as "Le BAC". If you do well, you get tracked to a professional career and thus go to professional high school (4yrs more of school where they figure out what professional career you would excel at the most then send you onto university to complete your studies in that field). If you sucked at Le BAC, you get stuck in the other type of high school which lasts 2 yrs then you get apprenticed out to a non-professional career (labor, artist, etc.).

Reading the Lyc?e's web-page (which is down but has a good amount info on the google cached site), Marie-Louise Dissard Fran?oise is a public professional high school in the district of Toulouse. This leads us to believe Lorenzo is at least above average in intelligence. Being that it is a professional HS, the focus is on academics and not sports. The closest thing to sports I found on the page was about a hike in the Pyrenees mountains at the beginning of October. Most of the page focuses on the success of its students passing the secondary exams to continue onto university.

[fleXodus]

This type of speculation is about as pointless as the "does he juice or doesn't he juice" type posts that overrun the forums on Bodybuilding.com. There is no way you or anyone can verify for sure unless someone obtains documentation or proof in person. It's simply debate that will go around in circles and ultimately lead nowhere.

[TheMM]

Originally Posted by gogr2

First off "Lyc?e" is the French equivalent of High School. Though in France, they have two types of Lyc?es, "professionnels" and "d'enseignement g?n?ral/technologique". At the end of what we in the US call Junior High (8th year of school), in France they take a placement exam known as "Le BAC". If you do well, you get tracked to a professional career and thus go to professional high school (4yrs more of school where they figure out what professional career you would excel at the most then send you onto university to complete your studies in that field). If you sucked at Le BAC, you get stuck in the other type of high school which lasts 2 yrs then you get apprenticed out to a non-professional career (labor, artist, etc.).

Reading the Lyc?e's web-page (which is down but has a good amount info on the google cached site), Marie-Louise Dissard Fran?oise is a public professional high school in the district of Toulouse. This leads us to believe Lorenzo is at least above average in intelligence. Being that it is a professional HS, the focus is on academics and not sports. The closest thing to sports I found on the page was about a hike in the Pyrenees mountains at the beginning of October. Most of the page focuses on the success of its students passing the secondary exams to continue onto university.

Quite true Gogr. But the focus is academics for all schools, not merely this one. (Yes this is off-topic.) The biggest thing for them is to pass a really damn annoying test that I don't feel like trying to remember the name to at the moment, but could be compared to something like the ACT, but just more of it. (That isn't the Le BAC, but a totally different test...Unless I'm completely talking out my ass and it is.)

Now then, as I said before, the focus is indeed academics. To do a sport of any kind, let alone bodybuilding as he has done, is treated as "do it on your own time" in France. It isn't seen by any as it might be elsewhere, namely that being the best at a sport isn't an 'alternative' to being the best and the brightest in the head.

[skumbum]

Originally Posted by Bull

And anyone who thinks steroids are "the easy way out" is ignorant. The only thing steroids do is make it possible to train much harder and more often without overtraining. There is nothing "easy" about that route to size.

If steroids didn't make things "easier", nobody would take them.

[bodybuilder23xx]

I DO NOT DISBELIEVE Lorenzo. I simply am fed up of people arguing that he is in his twenties simply because they take one look at his size and refuse to beleive he can be so young. I was only hoping that someone able to read french could simply have a look for a referance of the name "lorenzo Becker" and for instance 5th grade english 2008. Something this simple would prove his age to all the doubters. please do not spam this thread anymore with arguements over is he or isnt he and does he roid or not.

[RPM]

Originally Posted by skumbum

If steroids didn't make things "easier", nobody would take them.

Well actually, look at all the diets that don't work and the number of people on them...

[skumbum]

Originally Posted by RPM

Well actually, look at all the diets that don't work and the number of people on them...

What I mean is that "making it possible to train much harder and more often without overtraining" is making it easier. Wouldn't it be harder if that weren't possible?

[gogr2]

Originally Posted by bodybuilder23xx

I was only hoping that someone able to read french could simply have a look for a referance of the name "lorenzo Becker" and for instance 5th grade english 2008.

The cached website didn't have any information of that sort to confirm items... The French have privacy laws just like in the US. However, as I mentioned above, there was mention of a hike to the Pyrenees... reading it further, I found out it was a sort of retreat for the incoming students to the US equivalent of 11th grade. Lorenzo is tagged on his Facebook page to a classmate's photo album of a retreat in the Pyrenees. Both match the early October 2009 time frame. The facebook album is referred to as the same retreat name as on the school page. So, he's in 11th grade... the average age of that grade level is 17 years old.

[digger]

Thank you for reminding us. I am certain that most people have made up their minds about the controversies and that rehashing the arguments will not change those minds. Let's move on.

Now, if I could please draw all your attention to the health care debate, then we'd be back on topic and talking about something without any room for controversy ;-)

Originally Posted by bodybuilder23xx

I DO NOT DISBELIEVE Lorenzo. I simply am fed up of people arguing that he is in his twenties simply because they take one look at his size and refuse to beleive he can be so young. I was only hoping that someone able to read french could simply have a look for a referance of the name "lorenzo Becker" and for instance 5th grade english 2008. Something this simple would prove his age to all the doubters. please do not spam this thread anymore with arguements over is he or isnt he and does he roid or not.

[bodybuilder23xx]

Thanks to gogr2 for your help in clarifying that Lorenzo is genuinlly only 17 as was the whole point to this thread. It is amazing how some people miss interpit a question in order to create pointless debate.

[anpuZA]

Ah, so we've established his age. Not that it matters, really. I mean if he walks up to me and doublebi's me right in the face and orders me to do unspeakable acts to his ... well, let's just say scuffed knees is the 2nd last thing I worry about. And I think it's quite obvious that if anybody is going to do some well placed forcing-of-oneself-onto-another it ain't going to be the likes of you and me.

[F_R_Eaky]

What I don't get out of this arguement is how people can not believe someone could be that size and in high school. Not every guy in high school age hits their growth spurt at the start of high school, middle of high school, at the end of high school, or are the late bloomers. Some of us, and yes I'm including myself here because i did, bloom very early.
Myself, by the time I graduated high school was only about an inch to inch and a half taller than what I was at the end of sixth grade when I basically hit all of my puberty- 5' 7" (now 5' 8.5) By the time I hit 8th grade, 14 years old, I was shaving nearly every single day and my torso was covered with hair. In 6th grade my voice completely bottomed out and could make the walls rumble if I shouted cause it's so low. I couldn't get children 16 and under discounts cause everyone thought I was a college student. Some folks thought I was my brother's father! (he's nine years younger than me).
And I wasn't the only one. Two of our biggest athletes hit their puberty in their 8th grade year and by the time they hit their freshman year of high school they were 6' tall and pretty filled out. We had one guy who graduated 8th grade at 6' 8". Then there was one of my friends, by his Freshman year end, he was 5' 11" tall and a rock hard solid 230lbs. Hit the growth durning his 7th grade year and during the next three years he worked out like mad cause he wanted to play football and never juiced. (course he had some great genetics too and pissed off all the senior jocks cause he also filled out elsewhere to a very impressive 10.5")

So, for everyone who likes to say "no way that's just not possible." it is very possible if they got their growth spurt like us very early. Your done growin at 6-8th grade...what happens when you're done with the growth spurt? Your body then fills out with muscle to work that body. What happens to that natural muscle growth if you're in training for a sport everyday and you add on to that training and push it more and more further and further and you do that for the next four-six years? You're gonna balloon out.

Not saying it happens really frequently or a majority, but it does happen. Just something to think about.

[WhoDunIt]

I'd be willing that there is some serious jealousy with this kid, he's damn big for his age and will probably have one hell of a career ahead of him in this sport that there are likely plenty of people who are jealous, intimidated, or just plain despise him for it.

[viamanmax]

I would totally believe someone can be that big that soon and top out so soon cause I am the oposite and have been growing and im 22 now. So seems to me that if I can be this late guys can totally be that early with getting big. But damn he has a great build, would have been awesome to be that big back then.