HGH Cycle

[RoidBoy]

Hi, could anybody help me I was thinking about doing this cycle here

WEEKS 1-6: Anadrol (wk1 50mg, wk2 100mg, wk3 150mg, wk4 150mg, wk5
100mg, wk6 50mg)
WEEKS 1-8: Trenabol (75mg EOD)
WEEKS 1-8: Testosterone Enanthate (1000 mg Week)
WEEKS 8-11 Winstrol 50mg ED
WEEKS 1-10: HCG (Pregnyl) ***300-500IU EVERY 5 DAYS***
WEEKS 1-10: Arimidex (0.50 mg EOD)
WEEK 11: 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid
WEEK 12: 30mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid
WEEK 13: 20mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid

I was thinking about doing HGH or GH-2PL (Novartis) with it.

The questions im asking just now is, how much HGH do you recommended and how much T3 and any other drugs I would have to take with it (dont fancy taking insulin) . I was thinking about doing the HGH for 4 months approximately.

Are 4iu/day HGH a good average!

Thanks
Yan

[RoidBoy]

Over 100 views to this post and just one private message about gear back. Where are all the others roiders, it can't be that i am nearly the only one on gear for a few years?

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by RoidBoy

Over 100 views to this post and just one private message about gear back. Where are all the others roiders, it can't be that i am nearly the only one on gear for a few years?

You aren't (though I don't do roids). I think it's just that people on this board don't post about their cycles. There are boards that deal with just this. The one I knew about http://www.massmonsters.com is for sale (wonder why it closed????). Maybe someone could post the other sites.

[glammaman2000]

...as i've posted on other threads;i tried 2cycles of'roids(about 30YEARS AGO!)&had a very negative(mental)reaction.hgh is tempting;but it just scares me."sigh".guess i'll just have to be content with working out like a motherf***er...

[RyBearATL]

It's also illegal in the USA. Is it legal in Germany or EU?

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by RyBearATL

It's also illegal in the USA. Is it legal in Germany or EU?

Taking steroids without a prescription is illegal. Talking about steroids or talking about taking steroids is not illegal. It is a subtle distinction, but we still do have some freedoms here, even under this regime.

[RyBearATL]

...I forgot that we're not quite to the world of Big Brother...yet.

Or maybe we are:

http://www.studentsfororwell.org/

-R

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by RyBearATL

...I forgot that we're not quite to the world of Big Brother...yet.

Or maybe we are:

http://www.studentsfororwell.org/

-R

Double plus good. Russia has always been our friend. We have always been at war with Iraq.

[RoidBoy]

Originally Posted by Corwin

Taking steroids without a prescription is illegal. Talking about steroids or talking about taking steroids is not illegal. It is a subtle distinction, but we still do have some freedoms here, even under this regime.

Here they aren't really illegal. If you take gear, no prob. Illegal is to sell it without a prescription. But you can use yourself as much as you like. Buying some is another story

[UKBeefy]

In the UK I understand that possession and use are legal but dealing and supplying are illegal. Still there seems to be plenty of stuff around, especially if you join a good heavyweight gym.

I think Roidboy there are few regular posters on here who do juice or at least if they do so, they are not massively experienced in terms of other cycles. As people have said there are quite a few other forums with probably much more expert posters.
Best of luck

[RoidBoy]

Originally Posted by UKBeefy

In the UK I understand that possession and use are legal but dealing and supplying are illegal. Still there seems to be plenty of stuff around, especially if you join a good heavyweight gym.

I think Roidboy there are few regular posters on here who do juice or at least if they do so, they are not massively experienced in terms of other cycles. As people have said there are quite a few other forums with probably much more expert posters.
Best of luck

About other forums, of course there are a lot. But I also try a lot forums, and I was several times on this site, and so give it a try. We have even some germans boards. The main idea is to get expiriences, because nobody can tell you what to take exactly, you have to learn and to find out how the body reacts to different stuff. So if somebody just say, you need exactly 300 suspension or so, then hey, what if it is not enough expert in it?

But I like this board and idea. Because I don't feel me alone to get really big. Probably we Germans are in that way not this openminded like in the US or other countries. It is pretty rare that you hear somebody say: 'I want to get huge or monstrous!'

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by RoidBoy

About other forums, of course there are a lot. But I also try a lot forums, and I was several times on this site, and so give it a try. We have even some germans boards. The main idea is to get expiriences, because nobody can tell you what to take exactly, you have to learn and to find out how the body reacts to different stuff. So if somebody just say, you need exactly 300 suspension or so, then hey, what if it is not enough expert in it?

Yes, there are people with experiences here, but they may feel uncomfortable posting.

Originally Posted by RoidBoy

But I like this board and idea. Because I don't feel me alone to get really big. Probably we Germans are in that way not this openminded like in the US or other countries. It is pretty rare that you hear somebody say: 'I want to get huge or monstrous!'

Don't give the US too much credit. I think there are a lot of people who post to this group just like you. They felt lonely and afraid of closed-minded people who don't understand a desire to get huge.

Welcome and hope you keep posting.

[MikeinCleveland]

Is that your photo? If so it looks like you've had a few cycles under your belt, if it isn't and this is going to be your first cycle ....it is way too advanced a cycle for a beginner. As far as HGH start low , maybe 1 or 2iu per day. Remember it makes everything grow (bloated gut) not just muscles .Experimentation with slin is dangerous if you don't know what the fuck you're doing. So be careful. Is that cycle you posted from "Alin"?

[MikeinCleveland]

Wanted to make a brief comment regarding ancillaries. The use of arimidex (aromatase inhibitor), hcg (leutenizing hormone). nolva (estrogen receptor site blocker), clomid (fertility), cytadren(cortisol blocker) and proviron(anti aromtase plus other uses) and even clen have many protocols. Some "gurus" advocate administration early on with items like arimidex this will totally eliminate estrogen from the equation. Other 'experts' recommend using the estrogen receptor blockers early in cycle and then using arimidex at end of a heavy cycle when estrogen conversion is highest.This means there will still be estrogen floating around your body but it will not be able to attach to receptors. Keep in mind that test esters will convert to estrogen and at the amount of 1000 mg per wk of enanthate you are talking about alot of estrogen conversion. Remember you want some estrogen. Having said all that, everyone is indeed different. I've known guys who NEVER take any ancillaries and are huge.

[Perseus]

Hey guys. Long time user, but 1'st time poster. I'm looking to gain a lot of weight and had some questions about 'chemical enhancment' that maybe someone could help with.

I'm pretty much a novice, weight in at 160, but I work my ass off at the gym. I say its pretty good considering in high school I weighed 125. Been working out for about 8 years, but on and off because of school and work. I'm finnaly at a point where I have the freedom to hit the weights and get the food sleep I need to grow.

And I really want to grow. Alot. I was wondering what else I could do to push the envelope. I'm seriously considering doing steroids, but i'm totally naieve about cycles and shit. I was considering taking a testosterone enhancer, but again, don't know to much about them either.

But thats what I have you guys for! Well, I hope somebody will be able to give me reliable steroid advice for a novice, or at least point me in the right direction. Maybe tell me the differences between all the legal products too. Thanks for what ever advice or direction you guys can give.

Perseus

[Perseus]

Damn, sorry guys...ment to post this in the forum and not here. Whoops, my bad.

[muscle_mastah]

Originally Posted by RoidBoy

Hi, could anybody help me I was thinking about doing this cycle here

WEEKS 1-6: Anadrol (wk1 50mg, wk2 100mg, wk3 150mg, wk4 150mg, wk5
100mg, wk6 50mg)
WEEKS 1-8: Trenabol (75mg EOD)
WEEKS 1-8: Testosterone Enanthate (1000 mg Week)
WEEKS 8-11 Winstrol 50mg ED
WEEKS 1-10: HCG (Pregnyl) ***300-500IU EVERY 5 DAYS***
WEEKS 1-10: Arimidex (0.50 mg EOD)
WEEK 11: 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid
WEEK 12: 30mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid
WEEK 13: 20mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid

I was thinking about doing HGH or GH-2PL (Novartis) with it.

The questions im asking just now is, how much HGH do you recommended and how much T3 and any other drugs I would have to take with it (dont fancy taking insulin) . I was thinking about doing the HGH for 4 months approximately.

Are 4iu/day HGH a good average!

Thanks
Yan

Did you decide on the cycle or are you still researching?

[RoidBoy]

Originally Posted by muscle_mastah

Did you decide on the cycle or are you still researching?

Na, in week 6 now.

[brent]

Originally Posted by RoidBoy

Na, in week 6 now.

Wow, you'll have to tell us how it goes. I hope you are getting dramatic results, but it looks like you are already HUGE.

[muscle_mastah]

Originally Posted by brent

Wow, you'll have to tell us how it goes. I hope you are getting dramatic results, but it looks like you are already HUGE.

I concur.

Out of interest, what did you decide on for your cycle?

[RoidBoy]

brent: we will see what happened, normally i did similar cycles the effect was not bad, some sides, but ok. went up max on 13-14lbs, but loose around 6-8lbs afterwards, that is the hardest time. Like you get into a depression.


mastah: I go now with gh2pl, novartis.

[brent]

Well, according to my math (14-8=6) you would end up with a 6 pound net gain. That isn't anything to sneeze at: I love to gain 6 solid pounds in a couple months. So if you think of it in those terms instead of, "I was up 14..." then I think it might be less depressing.

[biguglymofo]

Why the clomid during cycle? As I understand you use clomid for pct. I see no problem with the nolva/adex. So you decided to go with the HGH. Good for ya. How many IUs, etc? duration of HGH?

[muscle_mastah]

BigUglyMofo,

Maybe I missed something, but the cycle outlined had the clomid during PCT along with Nolva. I'm not a fan of Clomid so I've stuck with just using Nolva instead.

[biguglymofo]

I misread the cycle....you got it right there eminem. My bad.

[mslworshipper]

I have done a lot of research about HGH, but I would like to know from anyone their first hand experience about their use of it before I make my final decision about what I want to do.

I know people will have different experiences and that "Results May Vary" or "Results are Not Typical" but I would like to know first had as to the side effects (if any)... Which is better oral or injectables? How do you inject? Where do you inject?

Please email me at my email address.

Thanks

[brent]

I'm also currious, but for me it will have to remain a curriosity since i have no idea where to find it (even if I did decide to take it). I've heard that you can gain up to 3" in height on it, even as an adult. Since I've always wanted to be at least 6'2", it's an intriging idea.

[muscle_mastah]

Originally Posted by brent

I'm also currious, but for me it will have to remain a curriosity since i have no idea where to find it (even if I did decide to take it). I've heard that you can gain up to 3" in height on it, even as an adult. Since I've always wanted to be at least 6'2", it's an intriging idea.

I would highly doubt any height increases would occur. Once the bones/growth plates (?) are set (late teens, early twenties) that's it. But at 5' 11" brent, stop complaining that's still considered tall! I'd love to have 4" more to get to your height but alas that's not going to happen except in my dreams.

The oral hgh tries to increase your natural hgh and doesn't have any hgh in the supplement. From what I've found, I'd not spend any money on them. Real hgh needs to be injected, refridgerated and is very expensive. For best results, you should run it min 3 - 6 months and add in some test.

[RoidBoy]

You can't grow in height with hgh, it is the wrong genetic code ot change. My doc told me the difference between anabolic issues and bones / body complexity ... damn, i wish i could better english.

HGH ist just one stuff, some different companies produce it. Lilly, Schering, Ciba, where you can get in different combos. GHpl is one of the best from Novartis / Roche but extremely expensive. And then only use this works not well, you need to stack.

True growth hormone, if pl or other editions are always to inject. I never take oral stuff, it is too bad, except of some combos if you need to take nolv. or things like that.

[glammaman2000]

..of GH causing a max.3/4"increase in ht.in adults.Your muscles shape your bones as much as vice-versa.This is why GH will cause bone growth where there is little resistance from a joint.(brows,jaw,hands&feet,elbows)

[brent]

Thank you for the explanation. Too bad you can grow from the stuff, but at least I have an explanation now. The problem with all this stuff being band (at least in the US), is that all your information is hear-say.

I think you English is pretty good, and far better than my Deutch. Thank you for the effort.

[mslworshipper]

1) If one does get injectible HGH, where does one administer it? I have heard you inject at the body part(s) you are working out...

2) How many times a week does one inject themselves?

3) What are the common side effects? Are they similar or different to that of steroids?

4) One political question (hope not to open Pandora's Box): Why can't we be like other countries who make drugs legal?

[brent]

Today I was thinking about WBHunk, and the fact that he's fairly good with German (he lived there for a period). That got me to thinking that maybe you could write something a bit more detailed, and maybe a couple members could try to translate it, while trying to keep the meaning the same. It's just a thought.

[biguglymofo]

Originally Posted by mslworshipper

1) If one does get injectible HGH, where does one administer it? I have heard you inject at the body part(s) you are working out...

2) How many times a week does one inject themselves?

3) What are the common side effects? Are they similar or different to that of steroids?

4) One political question (hope not to open Pandora's Box): Why can't we be like other countries who make drugs legal?

1) It's injected subcutaneously (under skin) and usually around the navel.

2) You usually inject 3-4 IU's a week (if I recall correctly)

3) The much hyped sides include acromegally (enlarging of the brow, jaw, etc) although those have only been reported in folks with pituitary gland disorder. Another one is enlargement of your organs, although....from my reading that's rare. Other sides include improved lipid profiles (better cholesterol levels), and improved fat utilization from the abdominal and trunk areas (your butt and your gut).

4) The drug is legal...it's just not legal for cosmetic purposes.

As a side, it can make you taller, but that point is moot if your growth plates have already fused. It's why it's given to kids who have dwarfism. Given at the right time it will increase your height, just not for adults.

[RoidBoy]

Now my point to the questions, as far as I read, all is somewhat I had. I use ghpl over the last years pretty intensiv (I have a doc, so ok) ...

1. I change positions, so hope not get too much marks in the skin
2. it depends, i went up to 10 IU per week
3. I had lot of sides, like strong pain in wrists and ankles. From high blood pressure I got also strong headache, and some other sides.
4. Here it is sort of special, if you use juice yourself it is legal, it is illegal to deal with it. So talking openly is also here not common. But you can say, you use it,that is not illegal.

Originally Posted by mslworshipper

1) If one does get injectible HGH, where does one administer it? I have heard you inject at the body part(s) you are working out...

2) How many times a week does one inject themselves?

3) What are the common side effects? Are they similar or different to that of steroids?

4) One political question (hope not to open Pandora's Box): Why can't we be like other countries who make drugs legal?

[biguglymofo]

Originally Posted by RoidBoy

Now my point to the questions, as far as I read, all is somewhat I had. I use ghpl over the last years pretty intensiv (I have a doc, so ok) ...

1. I change positions, so hope not get too much marks in the skin
2. it depends, i went up to 10 IU per week
3. I had lot of sides, like strong pain in wrists and ankles. From high blood pressure I got also strong headache, and some other sides.
4. Here it is sort of special, if you use juice yourself it is legal, it is illegal to deal with it. So talking openly is also here not common. But you can say, you use it,that is not illegal.

What were you stacking the HGH with? Just curious.

[arpeejay]

RoidBoy:

You started this thread in February. Now it's May.

How much did you weigh when you started your cycle?

How much did you weigh at your peak?

How much do you weigh now?

Just curious!

All the best...

Richard

[RoidBoy]

Hi friends

I owe you the results of the cycle ... at least what happened a bit throughout. Between I moved the living area a bit. So it was not easy, but in fact, the results until now are pretty good. Now I will see how the reacont will be in the next weeks. To try to keep the mass at low bf, I will go on a lower cycle in the next few weeks.

I am 193cm (6'4) tall.
Bodyfat we measure at time 1800 and with caliper on 12 Points
Measured Liver with hhmol 10
Bloodpressure at 1800 in mmHg

Started at 21st feb
118,3 kg (260,5 lbs) at 8.0 % bf
hhmol 8.8 / bl press 85/122

Peak was at measured at 13th may
127,3 kg (280,4 lbs) at 13,4 % bf
- even that bf is low, we added then more lsx to the cycle
hhmol 16.1 (!!!) / bl press 90 / 137

Last measurement after end is 30th may
124,2 kg (237,6 lbs) at 10,2 %
did not measure with doc

Yesterday (9th june)
122,9 kg (270,7 lbs) at 8,9 %
hhmol 9.2 / bl press 78 / 119

Now I hope to keep it as far as possible, i hoped to get at least 2-3 kg now i got bit more, but still in down phase, no matter as long as bf is down, now i am for after cycle, enormous low in bf (vascularity is pretty extreme now, and it don't looks this healthy now). Doc means it will go away after a few weeks because with the gh-2PL the top layers on skin were a bit more 'empfindlich' (don't know the word in english, like thinner or so).

What I check i put on some mass on calves, some on lats/middle back most.

What you wonder, this cycle hast cost me with good help from a friend (so no blackmarket) around EUR 1800 (it is probably around USD 2200).

Hope it helped a bit with info and let us keep pumping.

[ethernet_jock]

$2,200 for 10-15lbs of pure muscle....

wow.....

impressive nonetheless.

[brent]

I'd love to see a current pic. to see what it's like to be that vascular, and see what adding 10-15 pounds of muscle is like! $2,200 is way more than I could afford right now, but if you have it, it sounds like a great investment! Damned weak US dollar.