The new conan the barbarian

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http://youtu.be/ptC_KlAP_Ko

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sry try this

YouTube - Conan The Barbarian - Official Trailer 2 [HD]

[mango]

this looks like Hollywood crap. Rolf Moller, who was Conan in the short-lived TV series had the flesh to pull it off but this guy's got nothing but a Klingon brow. Aint gonna work despite what appear to be ok scenery and a bevy of extras.

[Bull]

It looks a hell of a lot better than that Ahnuld piece of crap.

[mango]

Conan the Barbarian with a young Mr. Olympia in the the title role was the first opportunity since the sword and sandlal fad to see a big muscleman on screen. Yeah it was crap. But it was a hit because of the beef on screen. Your wasting your time on the wrong board if you plan to put down a movie that starred an actual Mr. Olympia here. Are you a Kevin Sorbo fan or something? Do you not understand the difference between a muscleman and an "actor"?

[samjoy]

Well I am a huge fan of Conan, so hopefully this will be at least an watchable movie. In fact, I am sure it will be, the trailer looks good

[FrenchMuscle]

The is only one Conan: ARNOLD

[Phlex]

Art direction looks nice, but looks like – as with the earlier films –*this doesn't have much to do with Robert Howard's stories.

[suma]

strange thing is, as Mr O finalists, and real life musclemen in general are still getting bigger & bigger, but there seems to be trend in Hollywood to muscle down the superheros?
Besides this movie, think about Thor, Capt America, Bane.

[morhedron]

i hate to be rude, but this has been quite well explained multiple times in multiple interviews over and over again.

in marketing surveys, general audiences (the only thing hollywood and producers care about) don't like freakishly huge guys. this is why every single bodybuilder who has tried to get into film has been told to slim down, as well as the not quite bodybuilders but still huge, like dwayne johnson. schwarzenegger himself advised johnson to slim down even back during the rundown (google that film to see how old it is!).

it is not a "new" trend, it has been going on since schwarzenegger was big. read about levrone's and newman's attempt to get on film and they all said the same thing. it is not a hollywood dictate to get non-bodybuilder types into the rolls, they are simply obeying the market.

[suma]

gotcha morhedron,
muscular characters today in movies are ALOT bigger than they used to be say 60s 70s or 80s.

i'm just saying when the character is a superhero immortal type, or near that , or fantasy character like Conan, then why not cast a huge 250++ bber, when there are so many out there.
at least the Hulk movies didn't hold back on muscle & super huge size, even if it meant going the CGI route.

[morhedron]

Originally Posted by suma

gotcha morhedron,

i'm just saying when the character is a superhero immortal type, or near that , or fantasy character like Conan, then why not cast a huge 250++ bber, when there are so many out there.

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because test audiences don't like that. producers don't just want to service guys with a muscle fetish. they want, when thor lifts off his shirt, the women in the audience to go, "mmm" not "ewww," and they're more likely to do that when the guy is not too big. at any male muscle fetish site, just go through the comment section and see how many women there are. conversly, if you can find a pic of a shirtless 250+ bber in the mainstream, just see the reaction from the majority of women--usually it is disgust, complaints about all the veins, etc., etc.

it may be that audience tastes may change in a few years or so, but it's not likely.

[mango]

I know most people are not into+ seeing Paco in his younger years on screen. I get it. I never needed Sherlock Holmes to explain it. But I aint interested in seeing that crap from Hollywood that will be pushed as some kind of big dude movie. I would prefer a muscle man showing some butt and pec in these roles. Once in a while it is tried as in the short lived Conan TV show ten years ago. With that huge German in the title role. He wasn't handsome or ugly but if you like the big guys he was it. I do't give a crap how Hollywood picks its' muscle stars but I do know Mr Olympia's Conan was big enough to create two sequels. It was more successful than these weak kneed "muscle movies". The Kevin Sorbo era of sword and sandals was always stupid because focus groups don't buy tickets to Conan type flix, guys who are impressed with muscle buy them, unless a big star is leading ala Troy. And if anyone expects depth and believable plot in this genre I have a bridge for sale. Also girls don't like this shit so getting their opinion is not going to help sell tickets to the crap with a title like Bane or Conan. The only reason I put up with those Conan movies and Gordon Scott movies was the beef on screen. Not because I thought they were any good. Clash of the Titans from the 80's was a lot of fun though, an exception.

[Minotaur]

Conan is played by Jason Momoa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Momoa



He plays Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones.

[mango]

Crappy looking Conan.

[redwolf64]

It's true that huge bodybuilders aren't going to get cast in lead roles in films and tv because of the "ick" factor for the general public. They usually pop up in supporting roles as a henchman for one of the bad guys.

Before Arnold got cast in Conan and his other big parts, he popped up in several films in these types of supporting roles - things like the quirky Altman film "The Long Goodbye" or "Stay Hungry" with Jeff Bridges. And he was huge in those. He trimmed down a bit when he moved on to starring roles.

I went to a local bodybuilding show that featured local Malcom Marshall (6'1", 320 off season) as a guest poser recently. Attended with a couple of gay friends who had never seen a bodybuilding show and they didn't find the big guys sexy at all - they thought it was just freaky, so I can understand the reluctance of producers and directors to cast heavyweights in film if they're trying to appeal to a broad audience.

I'm not a big fan of the new Conan, but at least it means that the two original Conan movies with Arnold are coming out on blu-ray so you can see some hot muscle in all its hi-def glory.

[Aielyn]

Originally Posted by redwolf64

It's true that huge bodybuilders aren't going to get cast in lead roles in films and tv because of the "ick" factor for the general public. They usually pop up in supporting roles as a henchman for one of the bad guys.

Lou Ferrigno:

Arnold Schwarzenegger:

Steve Reeves:

Sean Connery (no kidding):

John Cena:


They may not be dominant, but there certainly are bodybuilder actors, including some huge ones. Of course, the massive ones are less likely to want to be actors, so it's no surprise that the top bodybuilders don't show up in movies - movies screw up their lifestyles.