Aggresive/Violent Support Group for Muscle Guys...

[ydt81]

I had an idea about a support group for seriously jacked guys who reluctantly have an addiction to dominating smaller guys in usually violent ways.

.....yes, I know: violence is bad and has no place in an erotic fantasy. Now that we've established that...


The group would be similar to Alcoholics Anonymous (except this time, perhaps the first A would stand for 'Asskickers' instead. Or Bullies Anonymous).
It would probably start as a series of anecdotes; they discuss, their triggers, and struggles, etc. I can imagine several possibilities for characters, including classic cocky, mean guys we've seen in stories before:

-huge nerd with insecurities who has a thing against jocks.
-some straight frat guy who used to bully gay guys (or the other way around);
-Some of them attack strangers, others have an issue controlling themselves -during sex.
-A mature muscle guy that sees things differently.
-Perhaps the group leader is a great supportive guy. But secretly he struggles the most.
-an unhealthy romance/friendship between two group members, where they try helping each other but fall back to bad habits.
-and anything else we can imagine while keeping the group reasonably small; some guys are more remorseful than others...some even find themselves morbidly turned on at the sight of smaller men they could easily dominate


I'm not particularly into (or any good at writing) intense gore, blood etc. but if anyone does this idea before me and wants to go that route it's up to them.

Again, I appreciate the struggles of recovering addicts, but thought this would be a cool way to explore domination themes with a touch of remorse.

[paarke]

Interesting idea. I'd love to sit in on a meeting and hear their stories.

[suma]

Originally Posted by ydt81

.....yes, I know: violence is bad and has no place in an erotic fantasy...

What?!!! One could argue that in fact fantasy is the only place for violence.

But I like the idea too. Not much of a writer either but maybe I can bang out a few paragraphs

[Yachirobi]

I'd like to see one of them get dominated by a much smaller guy. Surprise, surprise: turnabout is fairly hot.

Another idea: the member who bullies other bullies. He likes to see himself as the good guy but is coming to terms with the truth that he's not that nice.

Finally, they need to have an orgy. An all out, mega-rough orgy. But it might be more dangerous to be on the top than on the bottom.

[suma]

I too like the turnabout scenario where lil guy is surprisingly aggressive and bossy who slaps around a much bigger muscleman.

The guy who sees himself as defender o the weak little ones and beats up the bullies.

[portamivia]

Wow, I feel like Paarke: I'd love to read those stories.

[Otaru_grower]

Set it in a world that is 90% gay due to some chemical being released in the water 70 years ago. This is an idea that I've toyed with...a whole universe where gays are the majority and bigger guys often have dominance issues and there are support groups for guys that like to target smaller men, gay or straight, especially in gangs for some primal fun...

[ydt81]

Originally Posted by suma

What?!!! One could argue that in fact fantasy is the only place for violence.

But I like the idea too. Not much of a writer either but maybe I can bang out a few paragraphs

Haha yea Suma I agree with you. I was just being sarcastic; originally I wrote something a bit more snarky.


Anyway, thanks for the feedback and great ideas guys! I was almost expecting no feedback, considering the comments posted whenever violence or nonconsensual themes surface in a story. When I saw this thread, I figured that there would at least some sort of audience.

Originally Posted by Yachirobi

I'd like to see one of them get dominated by a much smaller guy. Surprise, surprise: turnabout is fairly hot.

Another idea: the member who bullies other bullies. He likes to see himself as the good guy but is coming to terms with the truth that he's not that nice.

Finally, they need to have an orgy. An all out, mega-rough orgy. But it might be more dangerous to be on the top than on the bottom.

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Indeed, I'm a sucker for turnabout too and have actually been looking for stories about surprisingly strong guys.

As for the "bully of bullies", that definitely fits into the picture. However, it could get into fighting territory, and combat is not my forte. or kink. But if you mean a bullying scenario with a huge guy bullying the big guys ( not a fight scenes between roughly matched guys), then we're probably on the same page, anyway. Seems like this member would fit in.
I had a similar idea for a scene where the group leader/counselor catches one of the members in the act, and stops him. The only differences is he actually later succumbs to the urges he just thwarted. (Like I said, these guys are so into domination that the sight of a weaker guys kind of gets their testosterone juices running ...).
Most of the ideas, involve these guys

As for the orgy, I wouldn't know where to start writing a scene like that, though it could be hot.



Now the structure of the story would focus on their anecdotes (for the first few chapters at least). It would really be sort of an anthology of "bully vignettes" introducing and focusing on a different character each time. Then after that settled in, it could move more into the present, involving the interaction between the men.


There are so many great ideas here that I wondered if this might also be a good idea for a "Continuous Muscle Growth Story" (given the right parameters). I'd still like to write/read a more controlled version of the story but the continous multiple-author format would be great for this, since it IS about an open group with different members of different backgrounds and personalities....

[ydt81]

Originally Posted by Otaru_grower

Set it in a world that is 90% gay due to some chemical being released in the water 70 years ago. This is an idea that I've toyed with...a whole universe where gays are the majority and bigger guys often have dominance issues and there are support groups for guys that like to target smaller men, gay or straight, especially in gangs for some primal fun...

Lemme just say, Otaru you have a way of taking ideas and fitting them into fantasy contexts that make the original premise not only more credible, but hotter.

I like your idea of a gay majority since it makes the violent tendencies of these guys more plausible without keeping the burden of current-day tensions. I'm also just a fan of warped gay 'universe' stories.

I'm still really fixed on having some remorse play in the equation. The idea of at least one freaky jacked freaky bruiser, blubbering over his bullying habit is kinda hot to me. The gang set up is a bit more intense than I'm capable of writing, though as I mentioned, I could see a couple friendships in the group leading to fateful 'nights out'.

This all depends on the kinds of personalities you picture for these characters; Cruel as this plot seems, I'm not really into total sociopaths or Disney-villian-type maniacs. More like the chill quiet guy in the apartment next door, who's super buff and has a secret taste for domination...(maybe that's actually creepier)

[Otaru_grower]

I really, really like the idea of a gay universe and it's an idea that has floated through my head for a while now.

I am thinking of several scenarios. Porn stars that go into politics because of their popularity. A LOT more emphasis on muscling up. So you have a lot more bodybuilders in general and make up maybe 15% of the population, which really changes the dynamics of relationships, and they often get special treatment in public, in private. Orgies are a lot more common, especially workplace orgies.

And of course, sexual harassment, aggressive behavior towards little guys, rape is of course going to be a problem because of this prison-like mentality of domination oriented behavior. The government tries to make a big show of making PSAs but gay dominance and trying to pressure smaller guys into being submissive is as rampant as drugs. Leather culture is HUGE in this universe. Teenage boys that decide to "go leather" often make a show of it in front of their teachers and friends as a way of standing out, being the cool or dangerous kids and whereas gang culture never really took off in this universe, teenagers like to prove themselves by having sex with older muscle daddies...cigars and pipes are far more popular than cigarettes.

The various scenes I imagine are locker rooms where bigger guys get looked up to and that transfers over into all walks of life. The bigger you are the more respected and often jobs favor bodybuilders above normal people. It is just how society has evolved. Smaller men tend to insist on much bigger men taking their place in line, or just giving them small favors, even free meals for their patronage, etc etc...

The story could come out of some guys who are dead set against this culture and work against it on various PSA campaigns or try to galvanize young people but then they feel the lure of Muscle Worship culture...

[jrbindfw]

The violent / aggressive / bully / nonconsent stories have always been the best reads for me. Power always corrupts, you won't get any complaints from me.

[porekop]

I love that kind of story !!

by the way, have you read my story? it's a comission for mnbvcx.

you can find it here: http://www.writing.com/main/portfolio/view/porekop

it has much like violence scenes, and fart muscle growth and (straight) sex, also with some sort of domination (mwahaha)