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Cops on Roids

interesting internet article about whether police should be allowed to use steroids..... if the end result is a police force that looks like these guys I may just say hell yes.

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-c...the-juice-gmp/
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What a fantastic fantasy inducing photo. If I did something really bad, do you think they might all turn up to arrest me? Or maybe someone could arrange for me to give them an award. Or perhaps they need regularly measuring for new uniforms as they grow out of their old ones! Or they might need someone to cook them a really special Thanksgiving dinner. Or.......
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Ps if they end up looking this alpha and dominant and just plain stunning, of course cops should be allowed to go on juice. It should be part of the benefits of their employment.
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Kratolagniac orgasm-inducing picture aside, giving steroids to a person whose job requires them to have a deadly weapon (in this case, a gun) on a daily basis could be seen as a bad idea with two words: 'roid rage.
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Yeah, it's kind of difficult, because on the one hand my dick is screaming OH GOD YES and on the other hand... wait, I mean thought, I only have one dick, the ah, well understanding that police brutality is somewhat "systemic" in the US and also here in SA. So what is going to happen if you run into one of those on roids?
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Yeah, it's kind of difficult, because on the one hand my dick is screaming OH GOD YES and on the other hand... wait, I mean thought, I only have one dick, the ah, well understanding that police brutality is somewhat "systemic" in the US and also here in SA. So what is going to happen if you run into one of those on roids?
Agreed that if you piss off a cop on steroids you might be baiting a bear. And depending on how many people that day had already pissed him off then the trigger level might be very low.

However, for the most part if you're not doing anything wrong you probably won't meet one. But if you are stopped and don't have any reason for him to take you in and behave like an intelligent human being instead of a spoiled brat, drunken monkey, macho ape or angry warrior then you'll probably just get a ticket or even a warning or it may only be that your car just happens to look like the one they're on the lookout for.

Beyond that though, I don't have any problem with a cop doing whatever is necessary to overcome obtuse brattiness, stupid machoism, or vicious aggression and if he looks like he outweighs you by 100 pounds so much the better.

Although if steroids were a perk of the job you might be attracting less than perfect candidates for the job.
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Thruth is
1- roid rage is more media frenzy than reality. Instances of roid induced violent outburst are usually exaggerated.
2- just like in society not all cops are into weightlifting or bbing. Do even if it were legal for them more might take roids expecting miracle transformation but only a small percent would be hitting the gym and looking like musclegods

Even his article starts off with frenzy and hype; speaking of armor clad gangbanggers wielding Uzis and such.
Of there are rare instances of such things but the cop in his everyday beat is not facing that kind of armament.

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Ronnie Coleman getting into police gear

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I'll take the dark one in the back please. Holy wow he is stunning! On the other hand, is this an actual police force or did they gather a bunch of cops from different precincts? There is no way that all of these men could have come from the same one because if they did, then i would imagine there would be some kind of controversy.

I am beginning to think that roid rage depends on your genetics. If you gave the same dosage to two different men, depending on their genetic code perhaps one will have a calm demeanor while the other will 'rage'. Just a guess.
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I know a few cops and they are responsible on roids (thanks to my new gym that is 24 hours which is great for people like cops and truckers who like to work out at a wide variety of times).

But I don't like it being called roid rage because that is BS from the media and the people who said they don't have it.

Testosterone is a key factor in aggressiveness, no two ways around that so yes a job where you may have to response aggressively and if you are already an aggressive person may make you react in a negative manner that surpass the necessary amount needed.

So because of that I wouldn't like it, no matter how hot it would be. Because while a lot of people have control of their emotions not all of them do.
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Because while a lot of people have control of their emotions not all of them do.
An increasing number of police in the U.S. are ex-soldiers. As you know if you've been following the news, American soldiers who have seen active service are disproportionately psychologically broken (very high suicide rates, drug abuse rates, etc.), and tend to react to things with violence (recent study showed that discharged male soldiers are very likely to kill their wives). This may have something to do with the way police in the U.S. have become increasingly dangerous and erratic in the last decade. (And at the same time, the government has been pushing them to militarize -- purchasing military equipment and using SWAT teams to reply to routine non-violent calls.)

I don't know about you, but I don't want these people on any sort of drug which has even the slightest psychological side effect unless it's a pacifying one.
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SWAT teams responding to routine non violent calls??
Where have u seen that?

No one mentions the normal guys just the cases that make news.
What about Ronnie Coleman, multi Mr O winner and ex-cop who was certainly on large doses of roids without any rage issues.
Same for Derek Poundstone another cop.
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OK, a few points: The question of whether or not cops SHOULD be allowed to use steroids is somewhat moot, because there are so many of them that do. This does not actually cause any noticeable problems, because the only time any of them get caught is when the foul up in some other way or they get narked on.

In the main steroids make you almost as short tempered as missing a meal, If you want to call that "Rage" that is fine by me. (voice of experience speaking) It does sometimes happen that the effect is more severe, but as a general rule if you give steroids to an asshole he will get bigger and therefore be a bigger asshole.

Oh, BTW different steroids do this to different degrees, there are some steroids that are only used to produce the "Aggression" that is described as roid rage-- (like cheq drops) You become extremely focused on your goal, agitated, and angry but I've never seen anybody attack anything other than the barbell while using them!
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Just read up on cheq drops. Cool stuff.
Sounds like it instantly turns you into the Hulk full of aggression, rage & strength.
Then leaves the body after 4 hours.
Could use some of that.
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I'm with Gymini29, if the end result is they look like that, then they should all be on steroids! "Roid rage" is most a bunch of BS. Just another false notion set forth by society to justify the banning of all PEDs.
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Personally I think "roid rage" doesn't exist. Roids like other drugs just tend to enhance personality traits you already have. So if you are aggressive naturally, that will be heightened. Most police candidates will undergo psych testing before they can be admitted to training.

Interestingly it is not illegal in the United Kingdom to import steroids for personal use. Although I think many of the police forces in the UK still prohibit steroid use. Certainly where it has been acquired against the law: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21154316

This is another good article on "Britain's hardest copper". It goes into details on diet as well: Britain's Hardest Copper







I also quite like this chap although I don't think he's a real cop:

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I have to agree with Shade, it might bring out personality traits in users, most likely not bad, but after some of the incidents that have been reported recently here in the US with abuse of power, that could end up being another "power" that gets abused.
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I also quite like this chap although I don't think he's a real cop:

As much as some might wish he were a "real cop," he's not. I can make out the phrase "Security Guard" on his badge. Plus, the way the arm and shoulder look make it all but blatantly obvious that the picture was morphed.
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I recall reading a couple of articles awhile back about how roids were being used by troops in Iran and Afghanistan during the more recent US conflicts there. It's no surprise the drugs would start turning up in police departments, with vets of these wars finding jobs in law enforcement in different parts of the country.

About a decade ago, a police department in my state was decimated by charges of corruption and roid dealing, with a long-time police chief ousted because of it. The police department and the chief were rather infamous around the country because of the hard-line tactics.

The militarization of a police force, like the one in my state, really has to do with the overall culture of the organization, with individuals moving it away from it's role of public service and protection of citizens into being an exclusive club serving its own ego.

I've known one officer with a different police force that was a regular user of roids and other substances, building himself up to a remarkable muscled mass over the years. But he's been sane and very private about it - he gets off on being muscled and powerful and separates his personal and professional life.

Cops doing roids is a hot image, but most that do use them aren't going to be very public about it.
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Somehow I think everybody's ignored the elephant in the room. Roids are illegal. Why do cops obviously get away with it so much? I also have known cops who smoke marijuana. Seems that enforcement of these things is very subjective.
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SWAT teams responding to routine non violent calls??
Where have u seen that?
It's happening more and more as the feds make money available for SWAT teams (but not ordinary police). There was a series of articles on Salon.com a while back which gave plenty of details, including a raid on the house of a town mayor who was threatened and who had his dog shot. (Apparently SWAT teams more or less automatically shoot dogs now.)

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This does not actually cause any noticeable problems, because the only time any of them get caught is when the foul up in some other way or they get narked on.

In the main steroids make you almost as short tempered as missing a meal, If you want to call that "Rage" that is fine by me. (voice of experience speaking) It does sometimes happen that the effect is more severe, but as a general rule if you give steroids to an asshole he will get bigger and therefore be a bigger asshole.
You are immediately assuming there is no link between cops being on steroids and the increasingly militarized, scary police forces of the U.S. I really, really hate this phrase, but "Citation Needed".

You are also basically saying "well, steroids don't cause unfocussed anger, okay they do but it isn't serious". Any unnecessary anger at all in the mind of someone who carries a gun -- and is apparently extremely likely to be pulling that gun on someone -- is not acceptable.
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Personally I think "roid rage" doesn't exist. Roids like other drugs just tend to enhance personality traits you already have. So if you are aggressive naturally, that will be heightened. Most police candidates will undergo psych testing before they can be admitted to training.

Interestingly it is not illegal in the United Kingdom to import steroids for personal use. Although I think many of the police forces in the UK still prohibit steroid use. Certainly where it has been acquired against the law: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21154316

This is another good article on "Britain's hardest copper". It goes into details on diet as well: Britain's Hardest Copper







I also quite like this chap although I don't think he's a real cop:

Now if he'd pulled me over it would have been worth sixty quid!
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As much as some might wish he were a "real cop," he's not. I can make out the phrase "Security Guard" on his badge. Plus, the way the arm and shoulder look make it all but blatantly obvious that the picture was morphed.
That's actually Michael (Mike) Schiemer, founder of Frugal Fitness. And I don't believe it's a morphed pic. He's fairly well in shape.
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What's obvious about it? It doesn't look morphed to me. It just looks like the camera is close to his forearm.
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That's actually Michael (Mike) Schiemer, founder of Frugal Fitness. And I don't believe it's a morphed pic. He's fairly well in shape.
Yeah, the guy is definitely big enough and the camera close enough.
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why not? i liek the idea! we'll be more safe, more protect and have real beef to watch!
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