An apology

[FRNKPBDY]

Members:

I want to thank you for your support and generosity as a fellow member of this site.

I also want to apologize to the group for submitting my pics as actual representations of what I look like. While I've been a weight trainer for several years, I have never been able to achieve the size and build I wanted. I know there are categories here where I should have/could have posted my work, but did not. What I did was irresponsible, foolish and wrong. For that I am sorry and can only ask but not expect to be forgiven.

People here have been a very friendly and accepting group. Again, I can only hope to be forgiven.

Again, I thank you for your support and apologize for what I've done to everyone.

Frank

[craig698]

what did u do and hi frank

[hulkoutlvr]

Frank, if it makes you feel better to know this, I've always been too ashamed of my body to post any pics. With or without pics, I love to read what you write, and I hope you will continue with your stories and insights.

[Mdlftr]

Frank,
Apology accepted.

In the interests of full disclosure, what about your stats?

Are those "optimistic" also, or more "aspirational" shall we say?

Not that I blame you. I've posted my actual stats, and pictures, but only after YEARS of seeing other people own up and after getting some results from busting a** in the gym!

Good luck with the lifting, and, hey, keep posting! I always enjoy your posts!

Mdlftr

[Reeza]

Originally Posted by FRNKPBDY

People here have been a very friendly and accepting group. Again, I can only hope to be forgiven.

Again, I thank you for your support and apologize for what I've done to everyone.

Frank

A classy and heartfelt apology, a rare thing these days. I forgive you, for what it's worth.

[suma]

I didn't even see the pics in question but I agree with Reeza
To own up like that and apologize is a praiseworthy thing.
Forgive & forget.

[Bear89]

The muscle growth community is small. And an apology is hard to come by these days from anyone. I think you should consider posting pics of what you really look like, I'm sure you look better than you think.

[JeffXeno]

Originally Posted by FRNKPBDY

Members:

I want to thank you for your support and generosity as a fellow member of this site.

I also want to apologize to the group for submitting my pics as actual representations of what I look like. While I've been a weight trainer for several years, I have never been able to achieve the size and build I wanted. I know there are categories here where I should have/could have posted my work, but did not. What I did was irresponsible, foolish and wrong. For that I am sorry and can only ask but not expect to be forgiven.

People here have been a very friendly and accepting group. Again, I can only hope to be forgiven.

Again, I thank you for your support and apologize for what I've done to everyone.

Frank

As my Aussie friends say, "No worries, mate." With a few exceptions, most of us wish our bodies were better than they are. Even those guys with great bods wish they were better still, for the most part I think. Your strength of character seems to far outweigh any error you may have made. You have my respect.

Best wishes to you,
Jeff

[kezzz]

Originally Posted by JeffXeno

As my Aussie friends say, "No worries, mate."

Or Kiwis. :-)

[tekuno]

There's two groups of people who are the possible targets for your apology. By far the larger group is "people who were looking at these pictures". I think the replies above are pretty representative: it's okay, most of us will just mentally refile you from "person we envy" to "person who, just like me, wants to look like this". No biggie. (There's possibly — now that I've noticed the other thread, definitely — one or two people who feel horribly betrayed because they had to look at a picture which wasn't actually an unretouched photo of you, and are a big enough jerk not to take an apology, but the only way to avoid making someone angry at you on the Internet is to stay off entirely, so you can probably just ignore them. The rest of us are okay with it.)

The second group, though, is arguably more deserving of your apology — those whose photo(s) you used to create the pictures you posted. I don't know how many people there are in this group — it's even possible there aren't any, and you were just enlarging your already-large muscles in photos of yourself, which would mean most of us should probably be envying you after all. But if you've been putting your head on other people's bodies, it would be a nice touch to edit the captions wherever the photos are to make it clear that the original photos don't belong to you, unless the people in question gave you permission to post them with alterations. (But anyone who has a body like that should probably expect other guys to envy them and want to be them, so they ought to be at least as flattered as angry!)

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by JeffXeno

As my Aussie friends say, "No worries, mate." With a few exceptions, most of us wish our bodies were better than they are. Even those guys with great bods wish they were better still, for the most part I think. Your strength of character seems to far outweigh any error you may have made. You have my respect.

Best wishes to you,
Jeff

hmmm...

Originally Posted by JeffXeno

What I can tell you is, I don't know if the body is Frank's or not. I can say, with little doubt, there is something wrong between the head and the body in those pictures. I fully understand people wanting to maintain their anonimity, but then you should just cut the head off, or blackout the face. If someone is going to post an obviously altered image as their own image, no one should get upset when the alteration is pointed out.

This is what is called "trying to have it both ways." If it was really NO WORRIES, don't publicly call someone out. if you do call someone out, AS YOU DID, have the balls to apologize for it and don't try and hide behind their apology. UNDERSTAND... YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG TOO.

YOU CAUSED FRANK PAIN. Take responsibility for it, asshole.

[anpuZA]

Frank, thank you for your apology. I would also like to apologise for any pain that I have caused by posting the unedited pics in the other thread.

And thank you for the explanation, it makes things a lot clearer.

[JeffXeno]

Originally Posted by Corwin

hmmm...


This is what is called "trying to have it both ways." If it was really NO WORRIES, don't publicly call someone out. if you do call someone out, AS YOU DID, have the balls to apologize for it and don't try and hide behind their apology. UNDERSTAND... YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG TOO.

YOU CAUSED FRANK PAIN. Take responsibility for it, asshole.

What kind of bug is it which crawled up your ass last night Corwin? It seems Frank is more honest, reasonable, and rational than are you. Considering your bizarre outburst, I'm going to assume nothing I say will satisfy you, therefore I recommend that you do what you need to do.

Wow, I never knew that pointing out obvious BS on the Internet makes me a bully, and I wasn't even the first to point it out. Please blow it out your ass, Corwin.

Jeff

[CelticMuscle]

Originally Posted by FRNKPBDY

Members:

I want to thank you for your support and generosity as a fellow member of this site.

I also want to apologize to the group for submitting my pics as actual representations of what I look like. While I've been a weight trainer for several years, I have never been able to achieve the size and build I wanted. I know there are categories here where I should have/could have posted my work, but did not. What I did was irresponsible, foolish and wrong. For that I am sorry and can only ask but not expect to be forgiven.

People here have been a very friendly and accepting group. Again, I can only hope to be forgiven.

Again, I thank you for your support and apologize for what I've done to everyone.

Frank

Am I to understand therefore that the pictures that you posted were "aspirational" as opposed to "actual" and if so, what help you do need to turn that aspiration into actual?

[Sedoriku]

Well it's good to see that all this drama hasn't chased you away... and, though it has been said multiple times, thank-you for the apology.

[rixxflix]

Originally Posted by Corwin

hmmm...


This is what is called "trying to have it both ways." If it was really NO WORRIES, don't publicly call someone out. if you do call someone out, AS YOU DID, have the balls to apologize for it and don't try and hide behind their apology. UNDERSTAND... YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG TOO.

YOU CAUSED FRANK PAIN. Take responsibility for it, asshole.

get over yourself. who are you the Forum police?

[Eager Muscle]

Sadly, unless there's an associated PayPal account I've found that I assume that photos of members with builds like yours are fake, so while the apology's appreciated there's certainly no need to apologize to me!

[argomac]

Hey Frank - don't sweat it.
For me personally, I don't understand why people bend the truth online, but it's not as though you're the only guy who has ever done it. An apology - now that IS rare, and if you ask me, that took real strength.
All the best
Argo

[calhoun]

I haven't followed this thread (and others) until now, but it is quite obvious to me that Corwin has serious anger management issues. He is the very definition of an "internet troll." My advice: ignore him.

[LeatherGryphon]

Originally Posted by calhoun

I haven't followed this thread (and others) until now, but it is quite obvious to me that Corwin has serious anger management issues. He is the very definition of an "internet troll." My advice: ignore him.

Why is it that when people remind others of civilized behavior, that they get called trolls?

Perhaps the SHOUTING could have been left out but Corwin's message was on the spot.

And if you haven't been following the thread are you qualified to comment?

It's like being at a cocktail party. Don't jump into a conversation unless you've listened to it for 5 minutes.

[V.R.Goh]

It takes strength of character to admit when you've made a mistake, Frank. Besides, I just saw it as the digital incarnation of wishful thinking. Hell, I wouldn't mind having that kind of body myself.

So, to quote any Aussie or Kiwi, no worries.

[calhoun]

Originally Posted by LeatherGryphon

Why is it that when people remind others of civilized behavior, that they get called trolls?

Perhaps the SHOUTING could have been left out but Corwin's message was on the spot.

And if you haven't been following the thread are you qualified to comment?

It's like being at a cocktail party. Don't jump into a conversation unless you've listened to it for 5 minutes.

FYI: I read every post in the thread before I commented.

[MuscleMesmerize]

I don't think it was wrong to point out fake pics if someone was passing it as their own.

I think Frank did the right thing with apologizing.

It's become easier than ever for scammers and catfishers, who used to rely on model photo galleries and were a bit more obvious, to now find everyday slice of life photos - and lots of them - thanks to all the social media outlets. While Frank's intentions were not malicious, coming clean is definitely still the right thing to do. You expect certain places to have fake pics - like many Tagged and most niteflirt profiles - but you hope we can be honest with each other in a place like this.

Though I'm just getting started with my site and it takes time to see results, I do ask that any guys that see progress send before/after photos that show faces, even if they want me to cover up the faces for posting on the website. That way it's easier to tell it's at least the same person, although there is still a fear someone could lie. Ideally a person could be seen on cam as well, or a specific sign being held up.

As for who caused who pain... there would have been no pain caused if there hadn't been a misrepresentation. Pointing it out may have resulted in feeling pain, but it wasn't the root cause. But does it really matter now that there's been an apology? I know I'm new under this screenname, but have lurked for a while prior and I think most here, even if we don't condone what had been done, do forgive and are appreciative of the honesty now.