Male and female growth

[Sar is Happy]

I'm trying to get a story written here, but as I've mentioned a few times before, I am fascinated with male and female growth (ideally, me and my partner grow together).

I know some people here don't like the female growth, but if the story revolved around a guy and his girl growing. Of course most of the focus would be on the guy, but I like writing stories about very big people. Like, 12-20 feet tall. So any normal sized person wouldn't be able to have sex with someone that big, I usually make the partner grow too.

Would anyone mind if stories had this kind of female growth in it, even the main focus is on the male's overall growth?

[muscl4life]

Every...now and then...the subject comes back.

First of all, I am not trying to impose my thoughts and opinions into you, so feel free to disagree, but ultimately this is a MALE muscle growth forum, it has to feature mainly the muscle growth on the male character. Anything asides from that goes totally into your discretionary power - sexuality, height and muscular growth, proportions, and even bringing growth to a female character - it all falls into you own free volition. I personally think that if you want the male character to be straight and have straight sex as he grows bigger, it is totally alright with me, the problem really is the "secondary growth" on female characters, there is a very thin line to be respected in that case, because like I said this forum is all about MALE muscular growth. I don't mean to discourage you to post your story, quite the contrary, I feel that we have to strengthen what brings us together, which is the muscular growth in men, if you feel that your story mainly features about this, well...I only wish you the best luck.

Welcome aboard

[OnyxFaith]

I think that if you can stick within the theme of "male muscle growth" as the primary focus of the story, I don't see why you couldn't do a secondary female character growing as well. In fact, I think it may show a level of skill on your part to be able to stay within the male mg theme and also put your own spin on it.

[Kit Werecat]

Hearing your interest of male/female growth, you'd probably love the story titled "Shipwrecked". It's the story of an ocean cruise where, thanks to some mysterious "suntan lotion", a male and female slowly grow to fantastic size, getting bigger every time they have sex, while the rest of the cruise passengers are kept as helpless spectators! Pretty good story, with a bit of a twist ending.

But these responses do bring up an interesting issue, and a follow-up question:

MGS is dedicated to male muscle and size growth, Diana's website is dedicated to female muscle and size growth.

But does anyone here know of a website that enjoys muscle and size growth from either or both males and females? A place where a story of partners growing bigger and stronger would not seem kind of pushing the rules one way or the other?

Hell, I would find it interesting to read a story where a whole family grows, kids and all!

Are there any story or archive websites out there like that? Anyone know their names?

[rextorres]

There is an entire thread on CYOC in the interactive story "Ty's Power" about a young couple, Peter and Joce, who have the power to make each other grow. She makes Peter really big (and I mean HUGE), and he does his best to let her keep up with him. There are several dozen chapters written already...

[wolfotehmoon]

If you have a furaffinity account, there is a HUGE(100 pages long) comic by DNApalmhead where the characters eventually outgrow the-... Well, you might just wanna read it yourself. ;P

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/dnapalmhead

It's called "Free Lunch", but you have to go a ways back to get to the beginning. Personally, after a while, I got a bit sick of how big they were getting, but eh. Oh, and check out Second Skin and In the Bag.

[droz]

While I usually lurk on this site.

This is one issue that I feel some people should really relax on.

First amendment, equal treatment to all, etc, etc, etc

My first issue is semantics really, the domain name is musclegrowth.org. Not malemusclegrowth.org. The title of the site is Male Muscle Growth, and again, just nit picking, MGS = Muscle Growth Stories

Second issue...www.thevalkyrie.com is not strictly for female muscle growth. While it does have female muscle growth, most of the stories there focus on the female being the dominant character, usually bigger, stronger more muscular.

I think what original poster wants is a story where there is both a man and a woman where they are at least mutual in size, strength power....or where they both grow but the male is dominant.

What is seriously lacking I think for this genre is a muscular man that is dominant and not gay. thevalkyrie.com does not cater to that, and at times many members here can be very hostile to stories or ideas along those lines.

I think it would be great if this site was a little more open to allowing anything muscle growth. Male or female.

I am a straight guy, born and raised in San Francisco, have many gay friends, see many gay people. I feel that prop 8 is wrong. However, just being gay doesn't entitle you to having preferential treatment. Just because you're gay doesn't mean that other people have to treat you better that others.

I will admit that the majority of everything out there caters to straight folks. But really, this is just expression and art.

Live and let live?

[V.R.Goh]

I vaguely remember a story from this or another website that involved an archaeologist finding two sets of armbands. One set belonged to Hercules, and the other were owned by Hippolyta, the Queen of the Amazons. One guy put on the Hercules bands and grew into a muscle giant. Afterwards, his lady friend or girlfriend or something to that effect put on the Hippolyta bands. I don't think it was finished, though.

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by droz

While I usually lurk on this site.

This is one issue that I feel some people should really relax on.

First amendment, equal treatment to all, etc, etc, etc

This is not a government site. This is a private site. The first word of the first amendment is "Congress...". The owner of this site is not congress.

Originally Posted by droz

My first issue is semantics really, the domain name is musclegrowth.org. Not malemusclegrowth.org. The title of the site is Male Muscle Growth, and again, just nit picking, MGS = Muscle Growth Stories

Second issue...www.thevalkyrie.com is not strictly for female muscle growth. While it does have female muscle growth, most of the stories there focus on the female being the dominant character, usually bigger, stronger more muscular.

I think what original poster wants is a story where there is both a man and a woman where they are at least mutual in size, strength power....or where they both grow but the male is dominant.

What is seriously lacking I think for this genre is a muscular man that is dominant and not gay. thevalkyrie.com does not cater to that, and at times many members here can be very hostile to stories or ideas along those lines.

I think it would be great if this site was a little more open to allowing anything muscle growth. Male or female.

Create your own site. We've been through this before about this site. The owner of this site has spoken, and here the posts are suppose to be about male muscle growth. If you want something else, do the work and put it up yourself.

Originally Posted by droz

I am a straight guy, born and raised in San Francisco, have many gay friends, see many gay people. I feel that prop 8 is wrong. However, just being gay doesn't entitle you to having preferential treatment. Just because you're gay doesn't mean that other people have to treat you better that others.

some of my best friends are gay is not an attitude that will get you very far.

[muscl4life]

Originally Posted by droz

While I usually lurk on this site.

This is one issue that I feel some people should really relax on.

First amendment, equal treatment to all, etc, etc, etc

My first issue is semantics really, the domain name is musclegrowth.org. Not malemusclegrowth.org. The title of the site is Male Muscle Growth, and again, just nit picking, MGS = Muscle Growth Stories

Second issue...www.thevalkyrie.com is not strictly for female muscle growth. While it does have female muscle growth, most of the stories there focus on the female being the dominant character, usually bigger, stronger more muscular.

I think what original poster wants is a story where there is both a man and a woman where they are at least mutual in size, strength power....or where they both grow but the male is dominant.

What is seriously lacking I think for this genre is a muscular man that is dominant and not gay. thevalkyrie.com does not cater to that, and at times many members here can be very hostile to stories or ideas along those lines.

I think it would be great if this site was a little more open to allowing anything muscle growth. Male or female.

I am a straight guy, born and raised in San Francisco, have many gay friends, see many gay people. I feel that prop 8 is wrong. However, just being gay doesn't entitle you to having preferential treatment. Just because you're gay doesn't mean that other people have to treat you better that others.

I will admit that the majority of everything out there caters to straight folks. But really, this is just expression and art.

Live and let live?

First of all, it's always nice to see lurkers coming into the spotlight, thanks for the input and for expressing your ideas so clearly.

Your train of thought is absolutely wrong, you may invoke the First amendment but it alone won't make you right, we are not holding different treatment on behalf of a member's gender and or his or her sexuality. (As a matter of fact you should rather invoke the universal Declaration of Human rights, since lots of people in this site are not USA inhabitants and therefore not bound by your Constitutional rules, while the right to equal treatment is indeed an universal and world wide enforced principle)

In fact, I can do exactly the same thing to justify my arguments.

In case you didn't notice, the name of the site is NOT musclegrowth.org, this is merely an internet address that has indeed changed over the years, just ask those who have been here longer than you. In fact, the name of this forum became "The evolution forum" and under the title "The Evolution Forum" it is actually written "the MALE muscle Growth Community" and the next theme is "MALE muscle growth".

It does not favor gay men, neither it does not exclude straight men, which can be proved by the fact that there are even striaght women writing stories and comenting among our members. Every human individual of legal age, according to his or her regional or local rules, is allowed to register, to voice its opinion and material regarding the Male muscle growth fantasy.

What you have confused is the right of the member and the "rights" of the characters. Any member can express his or her story, as long as it focuses on muscle growth for the male character. However, you cannot imply female characters have the right to invoke the right to equality because characters are not real, they don't have personality and therefore they are not entitled to rights.

Members are the ones who have rights and freedom of speech, but at the same time you must also understand that in this forum we are discussing one issue: the male muscle growth - therefore, any other subject does not fit in the main focus of our forum.

The solely undeniable fact is that here, most of those who actually post stories, art, videos, comments and suggestions are men who have interest in male on male sexual content, why do you automatically imply from that circumstance that preferencial treatment is given to gay men? Bear in your mind that this forum certainly doesn't exclude ANY kind of male muscle growth stories or content, which surely have drawn interest of different people to this site, regadless the gender or sexuality of the member. All of them are entitled to post their own material, as long as it respects the rules for the forum, it is indeed that simple.

As a featured writer and frequent poster, I am not asking for preferencial treatment, in fact, I think we all here agree that straight or even sexless stories are more than welcome in this forum.

The point is that FEmale muscle growth is not the focus of that forum, I don't see why you guys keep coming back to this basic matter, if you want female growth stories, well there's not just Diana the Valkyrie, there are a whole lot others that might suit your tastes, just keep searching.

I am not implying that there can't be female growth in the story but just as I've said before, it has to be a secondary growth, something to work around and to enphasize the growth on the male character, and it frankly is quite tricky, and any time someone tries to change the focus of this forum, I will express my opinion, I don't see why this sounds so outrageous.

You've said yourself that other sites don't care for the imagery of dominant straight muscle men as their primary subject, well that is NOT the case of the evolution forum, the straight male character growing stronger and more dominant is actually the theme of many featured stories here, just go ahead and make your research, here what we don't care about is the female character growing more muscular as a primary subject, and you won't have any trouble finding a place where this matter is treated as the primary subject of the fantasy discussion.

We have been working on this forum for many years and if it has become what it is today, it's because the contribution of many people, writers, artists, readers and all those people involved in the male muscle growth fantasy.

So, feel free to write your stories about straight men growing dominant and if it suits you, having sex with women, and even making them grow in a secondary manner, this is the space for you to voice your likes as a writer. Growth on female characters is allowed as long as it is secondary regarding to the male character, this is the spectrum of the stories we have been posting here and frankly, I hope it continues this way, not because we are giving preferencial treatment to gay men, but becuase we have made a choice between adult, capable, equally free human beings that has to be respected.

Yes, I know you will probably want to respond to that post, just bear in your mind that I did not intend to offend you or any other poster, and if I somehow did, please accept my deepest apologies, you can also reach me in private message to discuss anything you've considered to be a personal attack to you, and I will keep the same courtesy on my side, there is no need to start flaming wars that usually focus on personal matters more than community subjcts.

Thanks for you attention,

[TemptationIV]

I'm sorry, but, as far as I am concerned, as long as you are making the main focus of the story male muscle growth, then by all means, go for it. If there are those of you who are absolutely so repulsed by the idea of female growth, then there is nobody who will put a gun to your head and force you to read the story. For the record, I mean no offense to anyone. I just don't think it makes sense that some argue that it's a MALE MUSCLE GROWTH forum (and I acknowledge that it is), and nothing else should be allowed, while furry stories are never questioned. Is it not true that furry stories are really about animals, and not, by definition, men?

I say, GO FOR IT. Who knows, it may become one of the best stories this site has seen in a long time.

[muscl4life]

Originally Posted by TemptationIV

I'm sorry, but, as far as I am concerned, as long as you are making the main focus of the story male muscle growth, then by all means, go for it.

Exactly my point, I just reacted that in this site we do not hold any different treatment regarding the gender or the sexuality of the member. Stories involving straight male characters are just as valid as those involving homosexual male characters or even stories with no sexual content at all, as long as they can fit in the profile of male muscle growth stories.

Notice that i said MALE characters and not MEN.

[droz]

I think your comments were very fair and totally acceptable. You are absolutely right in everything you said. I do apologize to everyone for not being more clear in my comments.

I did not mean to offend anyone or come off as ignorant, etc, etc

I usually lurk here because I feel that there's two sides for the members here. Those like me who lurk and don't want to cause problems.

I'm not complaining about the intent of the site. What I am complaining about are members that cause an uproar when they feel the general intent/genre of this site is not being followed.

I personally think anyone should be able to post their story here regardless of who the characters are so long as there is at least one guy in the story that experiences any level of muscle growth. There could be a thousand women as the other characters in it, or asexual aliens.

My gripe is with members that start going off that this is a "guys only site"...."stories should be only of guys" ..."it's a male oriented site" ...which I think really discourages those that go back and forth or aren't gay.

You have to admit there are some members that get pretty upset when when see or hear of a straight story or reply to someone asking about a straight story....or even if it's a gay story with women in it.

That's all I have to say.

Again apologies to anyone that I may have offended and for my miscommunication


Droz

[droz]

Hey Corwin,

Any chance we'll see a finish to The Mentor series?

I just wanted to say that you're right, I kind of went off a bit.

I just wish that everyone here was more open

Droz

[muscl4life]

Originally Posted by droz

I personally think anyone should be able to post their story here regardless of who the characters are so long as there is at least one guy in the story that experiences any level of muscle growth. There could be a thousand women as the other characters in it, or asexual aliens.
Droz

Thanks for your amiable behavior, I do believe we can have discussions in this forum without turning them into a myriad of personal attacks. I understand your point of view, but, in my opinion, the idea you have might, sometimes, lead into a dubious perspective about what is a story where male muscle growth is focused as a primary subject.

It's not about the amount of male or female characters in the tale, neither the kind of sexual orientation they have, it's simply the main physical transformation narrated in the story, which has to deal with the muscular growth on a male, so it's not just "any level" of muscle growth, but the primary level of muscle growth in the tale - I am not implying that all stories should have outrageous freakishly sized muscle monsters to qualify as male muscle growth story, it just means that any level of muscle growth featured in the story (natural, prodigy, steroids, magic, science, or whatever suits the writer's taste)has to happen with a male character as a primary subject, all the rest is up to the writer.

Once again, thanks for your comprehension

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by droz

Hey Corwin,

Any chance we'll see a finish to The Mentor series?

I just wanted to say that you're right, I kind of went off a bit.

I just wish that everyone here was more open

Droz

I have finished another chapter of Mentor, but I don't want to post until it is all done.

The rule you propose with at least one guy with muscle growth seems to be what is allowed in the forum.

I'm looking for "Shipwrecked" in the archive but I don't see a copy. Does anyone know where I can find it?

[Username3]

[COLOR=Red]In my opinion; you can do whatever the hell you want, but your story is going to be ignored (by me)[/COLOR]

[charliepanayi]

Originally Posted by Username3

[COLOR=Red]In my opinion; you can do whatever the hell you want, but your story is going to be ignored (by me)[/COLOR]

I'm sure they won't be able to sleep at night knowing that information.

I think it's a cool idea, if you're still reading this and working on it, go for it.

[Sar is Happy]

I am reading, and might still be working on it.

I usually lose motivation, especially since I'm in college and I try not to use my brain extensively in things that don't involve my classes...

HELL YES!!!!! GROWING COUPLE STORYS RULE!!!!! I have always liked the idea of being a giant growing man with a giant growing woman by my side, and since the male growth is part of it, it still fits into the subject of this forum.
Thank you Sar is Happy!

[Kit Werecat]

Originally Posted by mm1981

I'm looking for "Shipwrecked" in the archive but I don't see a copy. Does anyone know where I can find it?

"Shipwrecked" and other Male/female Giant/Growth stories can be found in the Stories section of the Giant Couples website at

http://www.geocities.com/drlazarus1/index.html

Happy reading!!