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Old February 20th, 2009, 06:40 AM
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muscle addiction?

hey there, i'm a guy whose recently beginning to think I can no longer control my muscle fantasies. I've always been attracted to muscle since i was a kid and when once i discovered the internet, I was always more than happy to visit this website along some other muscle related sites as a daily routine.

The problem is , I'm starting to feel it's more of an obession or addiction, since i've been doing it even when i was in a relationship, and even when i had a realtionship with a muscular guy who'd gladly flex for me to drool at his muscles.

Lately, i've been thinking that i'm more into the fantasy side of it, rather than actually dating a musclar guy, i mean, heck i find popeye's muscle growth the hottest!

It's all fine when it's cartoon muscle , or even bodybuilders, but it gets complicated when i check out local bodybuilding website or just stare at muscular guys at work, cuz then it stars crossing the line between my fantasy and real life.

Heck i've even donated a few $$ for guys who do webcam shows, while i was in relationship!
I love my bf, and i'm very attracted to him, while he's not muscular, I don't understand why do i let those fantasizes control my life?

Does anyone else feel this way as well?
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I love my bf, and i'm very attracted to him, while he's not muscular, I don't understand why do i let those fantasizes control my life? Does anyone else feel this way as well?
Have you spoken to him and said the following elements:
  • I appear to have fallen into more than just appreciation of muscular physiques
  • Bodybuilders are the healthiest people on the planet
  • I feel as if our relationship could get even better if you started to build muscle
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well...

first of all - "Bodybuilders are the healthiest people on the planet" - one could argue on that subject.

Secondly, I'd like to think there's more to the relationship than that, i don't really want to ask him to work out for my sake, since I somehow feel I'd rather keep this muscle obessesion as a fantasy rather than actually living it.

I did have 2 muscular bf's , which didn't live up to my expections at all.
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So, I know a few MG kids, and this makes me interested in why you feel its verging on obsession.

Everyone has their own fetish, and everyone always has a weakness for it. But, contrary to what most people might say on this forum (it is a forum for a particular fetish, after all) I do think the energy invested in one's own fetish can border on something that is intrusive into normal every day activities.

However, NPR also did a special on fetishes, with one guest saying that it is horrendous that society labels other fetishes as weird. They had a guest on the show that said that he finds the medication of hyper-fetishes one of the most horrendous practices of psychiatry going on today.

So. I would say, if it is bordering on something that is affecting your everyday life or plaguing your thoughts, somehow figure out how to deal with it.

I would personally just say when you feel the urge or psychological tingling that we all get, just simply note it, be aware of it, and watch it till it goes away.

It's up to you, though.
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What about redirecting your fetish energy into building your own body?
This is the best suggestion of all. That is what's driving me right now, to see the muscle in myself. We all love muscle here, but there's absoultely nothing wrong with being "addicted" to improving yourself. I agree with drew, focus that lustful energy into getting yourself to the point where your body reflects what you lust after.
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This is the best suggestion of all. That is what's driving me right now, to see the muscle in myself. We all love muscle here, but there's absoultely nothing wrong with being "addicted" to improving yourself. I agree with drew, focus that lustful energy into getting yourself to the point where your body reflects what you lust after.
But, don't you think that your body image is directly tied to your fetish?

Don't you think that if you somehow work on that energy from your fetish to augment another part of your fetish (your body image) that you will actually make the energy you invest in your energy grow, thus making your fetish all the more likely to pop into your head even more often?

Thoughts are like muscles... the more you "exercise" them the bigger they get. The best, if you want to keep your thoughts from intruding in inappropriate areas, is to be aware of your thoughts and wait for it to pass.

If you want to know where I have extrapolated these beliefs from, it comes from years of familiarity with zazen practice, or Zen Buddhist meditation.

If you want to know more, just google it.

Best of luck.
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You are not alone on this kanpachi. I too feel like my muscle fetish is becoming addicting. Many times I find myself looking at HUGE muscle every chance I get - In the morning when I get up, during breaks at work, etc. It's getting difficult to concentrate on everyday things.

I have never had a muscular boyfriend and I really don't think that is what I need. As far as my current boyfriend goes I love him very much and I am very attracted to him. Right now, he doesn?t know about this fetish.
I get so much pleasure watching huge men flex. I get the most pleasure out of HUGE men using smaller men as play toys, comparing their big bodies to smaller ones. When it comes to muscle worship and my own sex life ? I would like to try it, but not sure what role I like ? if any. Do I l want a HUGE man telling me what to do ? me admiring his body? Do I want to be the HUGE man telling a smaller man to please me ? admiring my body? (I don?t think this would work since I like looking at big men) Do I want it to be mutual? Do I like just watching a big man flex and be cocky? Honestly, I am starting to realize that just seeing pecs bounce, quads shake, big necks, etc is what gets me hard. As my boyfriend and I have sex?I imagine this stuff through the entire process. Is that good or bad?
I feel that my boyfriend needs to know about this but I am not sure how to approach him with it. I don?t want to get into a position where I am looking for REAL LIFE bodybuilders to fulfill my fetish. I was thinking of just telling him straight up ? however chickened out. Sometimes, I will bring the subject up in general conversation. We will see a bodybuilder on TV. He will casually say ?that?s gross? or ?that?s too big.? He has no idea that that?s what I like. I like the 300lb beast with veins crawling. Recently, I have started flexing for him the bedroom. He LOVES it. It really turns him on and has given me hope that he wants it.
I am staring to think it all boils down to him accepting the fact that I like to ?watch? muscle/play with it. I would like for him to like it too?so that we can do it together. Even if he doesn?t want something like that..I need for him to understand that it?s something that I need and I can do without involving other men in real life.
I apologize for the long post but it?s nice know I am not alone on this.
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Hey muslguy, no apology needed - I read your post, and you're definitely not alone!
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But, don't you think that your body image is directly tied to your fetish?

Don't you think that if you somehow work on that energy from your fetish to augment another part of your fetish (your body image) that you will actually make the energy you invest in your energy grow, thus making your fetish all the more likely to pop into your head even more often?

Thoughts are like muscles... the more you "exercise" them the bigger they get. The best, if you want to keep your thoughts from intruding in inappropriate areas, is to be aware of your thoughts and wait for it to pass.

If you want to know where I have extrapolated these beliefs from, it comes from years of familiarity with zazen practice, or Zen Buddhist meditation.

If you want to know more, just google it.

Best of luck.

That goes into a good type of circular energy though. The more you work on it, the bigger you get, which makes you think about working on it more which in turn starts the cycle over.

I'm not saying being completely obsessive is a good or bad thing. It just requires a bit of focus. If you start thinking about it at a bad time, just file it away for when you're at the gym. Mental training is just as important as physical.
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Ask Dan Savage.
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Better yet, ask a psychiatrist. If you're really worried about your muscle obsession really becoming an obsession, you should seek out clinical help. I'm no doctor, but my guess would be that you need to fulfill a deep need and muscle men seem to be the answer, but it's probably something that sex can't fix.

Don't wait. Find a doctor with a good LGBT background and experience with sexual disorders and start some therapy. It will do you some good.
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What about redirecting your fetish energy into building your own body?
Agreed! If it's going to be a fetish, there's nothing like seeing your own body get stronger. Nobody's ever going to look like the massive morphs on this forum but seeing your own biceps and pecs and legs grow and have nice shape and wearing clothes that now fit properly and look great and having people notice is a real turn on mentally and you just turn it back into more and better workouts and learn more about the technique and nutrition and find energy to do other things. It changes your life. Turn the fetish energy into a life force.
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Hi Kanpachi,

You're definitely not alone. I'm also trying to get a better grip (no pun intended) on this muscle fascination. Unlike others, it hasn't led me to make myself muscular at all, which everyone here knows is a recipe for a downward spiral. All the advice you've been given is great; not necessarily easy to follow. I wish you the same inspired dedication towards your own physique that I'm working on for myself.

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My name is goodnight3455, and I'm addicted to muscle

Yeah, I'm addicted too... and I workout regularly. I've thought about steroids, supplements, synthol, etc. I've paid stupid money for porn subscriptions, webcam, "sponsorships." But, in the end, I just... "relieve" myself (I don't like writing masturbation: it's a dirty word) and then the thoughts disappear for awhile and I get back to my homework or whatever.

Nonetheless, whoever suggested seeing a therapist is probably on the right track. If not for my mental health, then for my financial health. Like I wrote, I've made stupid purchases that I later regret.
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Yeah, I'm addicted too... and I workout regularly. I've thought about steroids, supplements, synthol, etc. I've paid stupid money for porn subscriptions, webcam, "sponsorships." But, in the end, I just... "relieve" myself (I don't like writing masturbation: it's a dirty word) and then the thoughts disappear for awhile and I get back to my homework or whatever.
This is true for as well. The day I chimed in on this thread about having my bf involved...I was in one of those horny moods.

Thoughts have disappeared and now I can concentrate. I am sure it will be back though LOL
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Here's an interesting twist on this subject.. what about "str8" guys who are into muscle and worship? I consider myself to bi, more str8, than anything, but muscle turns me on big time. I'm pretty big guy myself at 6'2" 255# and I love picking up smaller guys and overpowering them. so what's that say about me? I've even messed around with a few small guys... no anal penetration, but some mutual pleasure. I still don't think I'm gay.
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As mentioned above, along those lines, I've run across quite a few staight men who seek to commune with other heavily muscled men and frequently it can get a lil' intimate on the physical level although not so much on the emotional level. The reason being.... many of these very strong, muscular men feel they have to restrain themselves during love making with their ladies or they could overpower or hurt them and therefore make it unpleasurable for them. But by restraining themselves, they don't feel that all out release of their power, their inner core, and the act becomes less pleasurable in the extreme for them.
To compensate, they begin seeking each other out for company and then a bit of pleasure cause they can all out release their total being on one another and no one is going to get broken or killed.

It's some what similar to the old Grecco-Roman philosophy: you have a wife to bare your children, a man to love, and a.... well I'm not going to get into the third part cause I don't agree with it, it involving young boys. At any rate it's similar because the women were considered inferior and fragile and they bore one one's son, but one found one's "best friend" and got it one with him because that was one's equal, and therefore the only way one could truly experience all out love making.

So who knows....
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Thumbs up This is by far the MOST beneficial/fruitful discussion I've seen on here!

Kanpachi,

I just really want to thank you for recognizing your 'addiction'; I think that no matter what we decide to do, it's just most important that we're honest.

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But, don't you think that your body image is directly tied to your fetish?

Thoughts are like muscles... the more you "exercise" them the bigger they get. The best, if you want to keep your thoughts from intruding in inappropriate areas, is to be aware of your thoughts and wait for it to pass.

If you want to know where I have extrapolated these beliefs from, it comes from years of familiarity with zazen practice, or Zen Buddhist meditation.
Best of luck.
With regard to Spooky, I'd definitely say that his advice is a very wise option to consider; It's the kind of choice that probably leads to better overall balance in a person's life. I honestly want to come to a better control and though I haven't been in a relationship, I already know that my love for muscle that started from my first glimpse of a bodybuilding show has shaped my taste in bodies MAJORLY. :P
But attraction to actual people and real-life experience can be good --even beautiful-- if we don't get too caught with fantasy


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What about redirecting your fetish energy into building your own body?
Drew's suggestion was pretty good as well: You never know where it could lead....
I don't workout to often, but when I do the feeling is quite empowering and sensual. AND have you ever been watching muscle/muscle worship vids and been able to tell the amateur models from the experienced ones? (ex: EXPERIENCED=Sagi Kalev; amateur=competitive bodybuilder doing his first private posing).
Well if you want it done right, try doing it yourself, I always say. Picture a hot muscle guy with the awesome body of a bodybuilder, but the allure of somebody who knew what his audience wanted to see b/c he's always wanted it too (like Pec Bouncing--Why don't most vids think about PEC BOUNCING?!)

Anyway if you built muscle you, would have something new to offer to the pool, i bet. But it might be 10 times as addictive....

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Here's an interesting twist on this subject.. what about "str8" guys who are into muscle and worship? I consider myself to bi, more str8, than anything, but muscle turns me on big time. I'm pretty big guy myself at 6'2" 255# and I love picking up smaller guys and overpowering them. so what's that say about me? I've even messed around with a few small guys... no anal penetration, but some mutual pleasure. I still don't think I'm gay.

And you don't have to think you're gay whatsoever.
I used to be cynical about this stuff big time but sex is not an orientation; It's kind of like eating--it depends on what you like AND what you're in th mood for at the time; some people like sausage and other salmon, and others like both ---or anything

And shout outs to Muslguy:
Your first response in the thread made my day.
(Pec Bounce + Quads Shake = Euphoria)
I hadn't even thought about the quads one till now

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You are not alone on this kanpachi. I too feel like my muscle fetish is becoming addicting. Many times I find myself looking at HUGE muscle every chance I get - In the morning when I get up, during breaks at work, etc. It's getting difficult to concentrate on everyday things.

I have never had a muscular boyfriend and I really don't think that is what I need. As far as my current boyfriend goes I love him very much and I am very attracted to him. Right now, he doesn?t know about this fetish.
I get so much pleasure watching huge men flex. I get the most pleasure out of HUGE men using smaller men as play toys, comparing their big bodies to smaller ones. When it comes to muscle worship and my own sex life ? I would like to try it, but not sure what role I like ? if any. Do I l want a HUGE man telling me what to do ? me admiring his body? Do I want to be the HUGE man telling a smaller man to please me ? admiring my body? (I don?t think this would work since I like looking at big men) Do I want it to be mutual? Do I like just watching a big man flex and be cocky? Honestly, I am starting to realize that just seeing pecs bounce, quads shake, big necks, etc is what gets me hard. As my boyfriend and I have sex?I imagine this stuff through the entire process. Is that good or bad?
I feel that my boyfriend needs to know about this but I am not sure how to approach him with it. I don?t want to get into a position where I am looking for REAL LIFE bodybuilders to fulfill my fetish. I was thinking of just telling him straight up ? however chickened out. Sometimes, I will bring the subject up in general conversation. We will see a bodybuilder on TV. He will casually say ?that?s gross? or ?that?s too big.? He has no idea that that?s what I like. I like the 300lb beast with veins crawling. Recently, I have started flexing for him the bedroom. He LOVES it. It really turns him on and has given me hope that he wants it.
I am staring to think it all boils down to him accepting the fact that I like to ?watch? muscle/play with it. I would like for him to like it too?so that we can do it together. Even if he doesn?t want something like that..I need for him to understand that it?s something that I need and I can do without involving other men in real life.
I apologize for the long post but it?s nice know I am not alone on this.
You know in a lot of ways I'm sort of in the same boat. My bf has realized with in the last year or so that I'm very into looking at guys with bodies. Lean muscle, stocky, or body builder types. However it's the super huge guys that are thick and massive that not only turn me on but give me these fantasies of being that huge and being worshipped. I feel like I may be a fairly lean muscled shorty but there is this inner beast inside that craves for more.

I welcome this feeling of size and power, makes me feel raw and beyond confident. I tend to play it down with him but deep down I'm just a monster waiting to be unleashed. Just the idea of being a swollen beefy guy gets me hard. Slowly but surely I've let him know that my goal is to be this hurculean figure.

At first I had nothing but opposition without people knowing this addiction. Again the whole "that's too big" .... or "that's disgusting"... when they see body builders or just guys with the drive to develop massive physiques. Meanwhile I'm trying to hide the wood in my pants and nod in agreeance. It's just so hard to deny, when the first thing I want to do every morning is fantasize busting out of my clothes in such rage and ecstacy.

I mean does it sound crazy? I want to feel heavy with muscle and just let my inner cockiness come forth. Non stop flexing and with sexual fantasies involved. To walk down a street chest flaring out and quads so massive and tight hugging my pants or shorts... in restraint. Lats ready and arms ready to tear open my tshirt. It will happen one day and I believe he'll be into it.
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I hear you and completely understand. My brain stem snaps to attention when I see a young, tight, bulging male. It's not so much an addiction as it is an automatic reflex.....the way a straight guy reacts to a good-looking female. Perhaps you are beating yourself up because you think it is somehow wrong. You and I and everyone else on the planet is a sexual being and that is why the planet is overpopulated. Ha.

But the fact is I find a manly man to be erotic. In fact, just thinking through this email makes me hard.

Enjoy your thoughts and interests.

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I never talk about myself on here, so here goes. Hello, my name is deano and I'm a muscle-holic. Trust me, there are a lot of men (straight, gay, and in between) who think a LOT about muscle, in all its forms. I can't tell you at what point it becomes an obsession. For me, as long as it doesn't interfere with my ability to function as a person, I don't care if it's labeled as an obsession, muscle addiction, or some other label. In reality, I don't really care about the label.

I've been obsessed with muscle from when I was a kid and first saw a Hercules movie on TV (with Steve Reeves). Now, many years later I still think a man's muscular body is the most beautiful thing I've seen. The main difference is that, along the way, I actually learned that bodybuilders are people. Of course, that doesn't stop me from acting like Forrest Gump's stupid brother when I see a tight t-shirt stretched across some big pecs.

Over the years, I've been fortunate enough to meet some very cool bodybuilders, each with their own take on muscle. I'll give you 3 examples. There was the straight bodybuilder that loved having me as a "little brother", even though I was older than him. He once told me that it turned him on that he was so much bigger and could protect me. I'm not sure against what, but the friendship worked for both of us. Then, there was the straight competitive bodybuilder that told me once that being worshipped by another guy was a huge sexual turnon because he felt only another man could appreciate what he had achieved. Needless to say, I was happy to "appreciate" him. Then, there was the bodybuilder boyfriend who once told me that what really turned him on was that he was so much bigger and stronger than me that he could do anything to me and I couldn't stop him. Now, it's not that he would, but he loved the idea of his power and that was a big turnon for me, too. I guess what I'm trying to say, in my own long-winded way, is that the love of muscle comes in all forms. When I'm not around muscle, I've still got my brain for fantasies or the web. What's important, as I said before, is that I don't let it stop me from being able to function as a person.
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