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Old July 22nd, 2009, 04:15 PM
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Question Muscle building program which has worked great for me, but??

hey.. James here.. Lil about me- I'm a hardgainer standing at 6'2 who started at about 135 lbs... I remember for the longest time it seemed almost as if my body refused to allow me to gain much if any muscle mass whatsoever.. I probably spent about 4-5 months of frivelous weight training every other day trying to build muscle to pretty much no avail.. Eventually I came across the muscle building program at http://www.buildmuscle.pcti-system.com .. which I'm sure many of you also have and had similar success as I've had with it. After being on the program for a little while now I've finally seen massive progress and am currently at 165 lbs .. added 30 lbs of muscle in a relatively short amount of time. But my question is, as I'm sure many of you who are doing Vince's program know.. he doesn't exactly endorse any muscle building supplements and believes they are basically useless and way over-hyped. Now, although I've already had massive success with his program and trust his advice.. I find it hard to believe that there isn't ANY effective supplement out there which can promote significant muscle gain. I know first hand that most are bogus and give fraudulent claims.. but I know there has to be SOMETHING out there which really works. Am I wrong in this assumption? Have any of you experienced significant added results with the help of a muscle growth promoting supplement?? Any advice / comments / suggestions would be much appreciated.. and I'm not interested in any narcotic steroids either.. thanks!
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I look at those websites and it seems gimmicky.

The basics of weight building are simple and boring. You know. Lift big. Eat right. Rest plenty.

There are many subtleties to these 3 points. But, that's all there is.

I don't knock your personal experience, but the testimonials seem like unfounded claims trying to get your money.

So, tell us 1 or a few of the "secrets" that the website reveals. Maybe I'll be persuaded that this guy knows something...
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lol at narcotic steroid.

While it is best to do it naturally, there are definitely supplements that can help. There is a lot of crap out there so don't buy whatever some shmuck tries to sell you but certain supplements really do help.

First and foremost, I really hope you are using protein powder. Nothing compares in that, unless you are able to eat between 160 and 240 grams of protein a day, from meat fish and dairy, a protein supplement really helps with this. Also, by taking a whey based protein right after your workout, natural muscle building hormones shoot through the roof. It must be consumed within 30 min of your workout, but the benefits are staggering.

Start there, then maybe move into some creatine or some amino acids. you don't need anything fancy or expensive but use some protein at least to ensure you are really gaining.
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