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I was going to add, interject or offer my opinion, but I'm going to sit back and see what else happens on this thread. D |
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I would have found your post a bit more helpful if you had been more specific about "some of the posts in this thread concern me" and those that are "positive role modeling," as well as what about any of the posts causes you concern. Lacking specificity, it's easy to think, "OMG! I'm alarming this mental health professional with my rampant paraphilia!" All the best... Richard who, obviously, is still in love with Lifter73 |
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I agree with RPJ, and thanks for reviving this thread, rippedspongebob! I've contributed to this thread more than any other in the hopes of bettering my understanding of the subjects raised. I appreciate your post, and look forward to future contributions from you but hope you'll speak more in layman's terms so that the most people can benefit from your expertise. __________________ "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche "Men seldom make passes at girls who wear glasses." - Dorothy Parker "Faces fall, but a bicep's forever." - Eager Muscle "A personal trainer is someone who works for your lunch money." - Eager Muscle Last edited by Eager Muscle; July 28th, 2009 at 03:00 PM. |
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And I agree with yor response as I read back through this entire posting. There were probably a few posters that read Bob's post and probably were thinking that "OMG, maybe I do need help after all!" LOL! And besides, it was not very long ago when homosexuality itself was considered Paraphilia....and to some mis-informed people today it still is considered such. And forgetting my minor in Psychology from University I'm going to just be plain and simple. Fact is is that it is not unusual for ANY man, straight or gay, to have a homosexual thought....in fact it is normal. Now, how we handle it and how it affects us is very complex..we are talking family, environment, friends, society and how we feel about ourselves goes a long way in determining the path in which we take towards the realization of who we are. And that not only goes for our sexuality but for every aspect of our lives. I do also feel that the key is just to live, explore and grow into who we are to become. And yes, there are the gamut of desires, fetishes, fantasies that we all have within ourselves....quite unavoidable, but whether and how we act on them (or not) is pretty much determined in how we evolve as adults. I do believe a person can be gay and not desire either a penis or a vagina, but the thought of big huge muscle just send them into an uncontrollable orgasm. And there are straight men out there that get turned on more by seeing another powerfully built man than by their own wives (I happen to know a few of those men....one of them happens to be a teacher at a Baptist School!). And dare I say that there are many many straight men that if there were no other option would have a homosexual encounter. In the animal kingdom it is not unusual for the male of the species to have sex with the same sex when there are no females around. And I can also remember speaking to a guy once that said he was gay only when he was incarcerated, and straight when he was released....gay by convenience. And this is not unusual in many prisons. In short, there are no black and white answers......just a kaleidoscope of greys, and thank goodness that we can talk freely about it! Now I gotta go and flex and look at myself..... Peace all! D |
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This is definitely one of the more interesting threads on the forum. I too am exclusively turned on by male muscle and not at all into anal sex. However, if someone asks me if I'm gay, I answer in the affirmative, even if it does mean I'm only placing myself within society's easily defined constructs. I guess it's just the path of least resistance, and I'm ok with that. I've heard about the whole 'g0y' thing, but it just seems so forced and corny. I can't see it catching on. Another day, another label/category! Oh, and one more thing.... Quote:
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I am gay. When I have sex with my partner I picture in my mind a HUGE bodybuilder flexing, comparing himself to a smaller person, being huge, cocky, and loving it. It gets me hard as a rock. Is that wrong? Should I be thinking about the person I am with? (who is not big by any means). Quote:
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MG: It's not just you, and, no, there's nothing wrong with it. Great big muscles do it for me. I imagine myself with great big muscles, I imagine my partner with great big muscles, I imagine a third party with great big muscles. Which does NOT detract, in my mind, from appreciating who is in bed with me. If I weren't interested in him, or turned off by him, I wouldn't be licking and sucking every square inch of his body! :-) xoxo Richard |
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LOL, just something funny and stupid (so me) I kept on looking at the dates and the posts would jump from 2004 to 2003 to 2006 even though they follow each other. I thought: My God but these people need to update there system time! Then I saw... oh, join date. Ooooopseeeeee! Lol sorry! About this thread. I couldnt read every posting, so I'm probably gonna repeat someones reply. I dont think it's all that confusing. People are complicated. IMHO I think we're all bisexual to different degrees, and those levels of bisexuality are then litterally finished off or enhanced by our surroundings and culture. I think if you are attracted to the male form, you become aroused by it ... then no, you are not 100% straight. But neither is anyone else. And what of it if one day you meet a guy, who turns you on with his size or maybe who you turn on with your size. So what? Enjoy the admiration, get off on it. That's you! That's human. The last thing you should feel is guilt. I am mostly gay, meaning I have a small chance of meeting a woman on this earth who will make me do a doublte take. I dont want that to happen, I dont feel attracted to women at all. But if it happens, it happens. I however must also state that I have never looked at a woman and found myself aroused. OFcourse if they are bodybuilders, I do get a pang when I see the stuff I'm addicted to (the muscle) but mostly they freak me out a little. No offence meant to those who like and those who are so. |
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There are a lot of men, including myself, who are okay with not having intercourse with their partners. Im single now, and have no plans to get back into relationships,as Im not good at being paired with a partner and seem better suited to a solitary lifestyle, which is not a bad thing either. As to the question put forward by the author of this thread "Is it just me?", I wasnt into genitalia on men whatsoever when I was younger. I just preferred to see the muscles, and if they guy happened to be huge AND wearing just jeans, that was the ultimate bonus for me. As I got older and more experimentative, however, I developed an interest in the male nude, especially if they were huge and muscular, and endowed with large cocks and balls as well, emphasising their masculinity still further. I guess my love of musclemorphing and muscle growth fiction grew out of my ever increasing appetite for this sort of thing. How the author of this thread feels now about male muscle growth versus nudity, may change in years to come, and I think the most important thing in life is not whether you're straight or gay, but that you are comfortable with the person life has made you, and that you stay safe in your sexual pursuits. God, I sound like Doctor Ruth. Hope this helps. |
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oh woah Actually I thought I would never post in this forum at all. And I still feel a bit "freaked out" about the slight underground feeling about this site, but You know seeing the description of my own life reflected in others always surprises me! Yes, I am/was in the pretty same boat. I'm somewhat "homophil"; though it is a longer story. I started where it did with abbraxis. But well, it did not stop :S I mean I started got a bit obsessed and then slowly interested in more than just looking at muscles. However I still "don't want to be gay". But I have these obscure desires of e.g. huging a guy and holding him for a looong time, but not much more. But a few times I watched gay erotic videos (kissing mainly) and got turned on. But other times I just am digusted by the thought... Though I also had some reading into the topic and it made some things more clear for me. I certainly one of those yound adults without a decent social role model. I'm sure it's not true for everyone, but it suits me: what I did not have with boys and men in my childhood I would like to get somehow now. Or something like this. And my terrible social isolation doesn't help much either. Oh well, and spice things up with being (trying to be) a Christian. I am awfully lucky to have normal "brothers" and "sisters" around, who aren't blind fanatics. But I still did not discuss it with anyone, never had the guts. I know that homosexuality isn't practically "worse" than any other sin; but no better either. So don't think I'm this self-torturing cracked up guy you see in Hollywood films. I don't plan to write too much, but I wanted to share this. You know it feels less alone, and might it help someone... Good luck to everyone with identifying yourselves! |
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Now a friend and I go to 24-hour gym when it's least crowded and I we've begun going quite regulary. Once every 2 days. I mean, I hate going... but I love it. I feel like I'm really doing something finally. |
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just do it! I know there are different experience of sexual fatasy during their adolescence.And we are observing our physical and metal change all the time.Sometimes the dream is the reflection of our innermost heart.We would be attracted by the special type we like.However, it is sometimes be misunderstood as crazy thought or attitude.I mean, you just do it, no matter make it overtly or covertly.Follow you heart, if there is no hesitation. __________________ replica watches |
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Guys, I am in the same boat as a lot of people in this thread. I'm 21 and still a virgin. I'm glad to see I'm not alone. I just read the whole 4 pages and it's fascinating. I have almost never been attracted to a real person. Let me explain. When I see a picture of a tall, strong, manly and muscled guy, I get a hard-on almost instantly, because my mind starts racing as I imagine myself being that person. (I'm not small, but I could always be bigger, hahaha) When I read a story about a guy growing bigger and bigger and taller and dominating other guys or dominating girls, I get super excited and get a hard-on for the same reasons. HOWEVER, I have never had a hard-on by seeing a muscle guy IN REALITY, even if he was 100% what I want to be, or even if he was ridiculously strong/dominant. I see the muscle guy, I "appreciate" what I see, but I don't feel anything special. I have had a few rare hard-ons because of girls (like that time when my best friend in highschool accidentally put her hand on my thigh while sitting in the bus. So innocent, I know, lol.). I feel kinda strange, almost like an alien, because I don't like the idea of having sex with anybody. To me, sex looks kinda... dirty and not useful. I probably sound stupid. For example, I loooooove watching Victoria's secret runways because the girls are stunningly beautiful and like seeing their curves and their long sexy legs and their breasts moving under their shirts. For some reason, the wings they wear turn me on, sometimes, hahaha. My point is that they are not real. The girls we see on tv are not like that in reality. They wear make-up, costumes, hair extensions, they are on a scene and the lights are hiding their flaws. They are images of women, and I think that's why I love them. Having sex with them, however, doesn't interest me at all. It's the same for videos and pictures of guys or stories of guys. What I see and imagine doesn't really exist. They are only illusions, fantasies, dreams, but they don't exist. They are photoshoped, dressed in a special way, wear make-up too, are pumped just before taking the pictures. In other words, they are fake and are printed on paper, filmed with a camera or existing in my mind. Having sex with men is also out of the question. So, I hope I am not the only one here to think that what I really love is the IDEA of muscle, of growth, of domination and of manlyness, just like the IDEA of women, beauty, grace and heavenly bodies. The real thing seems so much bitter and not interesting compared to it that I am not attracted to men nor to women. So, I don't think I am gay, but I don't think I am straight either. I don't know what I am and it really confusing. I don't even know if I am something, to be honest. I think I just love myself and get excited with the idea of me being someone else (auto-gay hard-ons?!?) or being with someone else (straight hard-ons). Argh, why couldn't I just be some normal dumb and happy person, damnit?!? Lol. |
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Actually Niko I think you are further ahead than a lot of people. You haven't given yourself away freely like a lot of guys and girls do at such early ages. They don't think about the consequences that result from this and end up in several relationships based on just physical attraction and are left empty inside. I have yet to find the right guy and part of this is based on not just physical attraction, but also his personality. My type are guys like Anglekindle, Shakelightly, and Arpeejay: Muscular, funny, down-to-earth, and have that cuddly factor. These guys don't exist where I live so it is hard. |
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Yeah, I guess I am. Thanks for saying that, it's like a balm on my heart, lol. But you know, again, Shakelightly, Arpeejay and other guys like that don't really exist. They are characters. I mean, sure they are probably kind, funny and down to earth, but how are they in their everyday lives? Do you know what they like and don't like? How they react when they are surprised? How they react when they are mad? What their worst fears are? Do you know the dark parts of their hearts, their deepest secrets, how they act when they are not in front of a camera? Those are just a few of the things that come with the REAL people. What you see when you watch one of Shakelightly's videos is what he wants you to see. He's a character, an image that exists on video. What he really is, you don't know. I hope you will find someone that will be de person of your dreams, raven79. Don't lose hope. I know I may sound pessimistic, but you know, in the end, I hope I will find answers. Take care, Niko777 |
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That's okay Niko, we all respond to people differently. We have to first find out who we are first before we can find someone to share our lives with. Don't be too pessimistic though because all people have dark spots. You just have to learn to deal with them. I have come to realize this. I always make it a priority to become friends before anything else happens. That is why it is so hard. |
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!!! Well, a couple of points: (1) Raven is a sweetheart to include me in such rarefied company as Anglekindle and Shakelightly -- and quite deluded to do so! (2) I really do exist! xoxo Richard |
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Um, not only do you exist, but you're intoxicatingly handsome and lickably built yourself! __________________ Hulkoutlvr |
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I know you exist, arpeejay, lol. By writing that, I just meant that what we see on screen, on pictures or in our minds is not reality. You, as an individual, exist, there's no doubt about it. Let me give you an example. We write stuff on this forum, we reply to each other, we give ourselves tips and tricks, etc. To some extent, to you, I exist. However, Niko777 is not the real me. It's an avatar, if you want. I act in a special way here because it is a special place. I wouldn't start talking about muscle growth in the grocery store with God know who, lol. Well, people on pictures and on videos are some kind of avatars, since they are not like that in their everyday life. Even on forums they are just avatars. So, I just wanted to say that falling in love with avatars is faaaaar from being the same as falling in love with a real person. I am Niko777, but at the same time I'm not. Sorry if I wasn't clear. |
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Got it Niko! First off, Yes Richard it is possible that you are a very attractive muscle daddy that any younger guy would dream of meeting since your personality and back story is so fascinating since I have read about your past relationship with a wonderful man and of course your current relationship with another wonderful man. Niko, despite the fact that we use avatars as our online personas, some of us really do reveal a personal side for others to see. We use avatars to shield our real names, but some guys do reveal their back stories in detail like our very lovely daddy, Arpeejay. Richard has been around for quite some time and I am grateful that he wasn't afraid to tell us about some of the hardships that he has experienced in the last ten years or so. Thank you Richard for being such a great man! |
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Is it just me hey..just throwin this out there can you change the background images for battles into a custom image in RPG95i want to make my last boss have a jenova type feel to it from ff7 so i made a backround image for it but when i change the name of it so it appears in the program its says GDI error or somthin like that......Help please |
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I exist!! :o) thought I'd say hello ) |
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Just a hello? Shakelightly, Did you think a simple hello from you wouldn't cause an avalanche of excitement on the forum? I love your vids and applaud your enthusiasm, your humor, and your work on your body. Please keep posting. You inspire all of us. Thank you! __________________ http://londonboy45.tumblr.com (A place for me to post my stories in progress and other stuff I like) |
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Hey sexy! Welcome Brandon! Things have been quiet lately on this thread, but since you have turned up, we may get this rolling again! |
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Hey Raven!! I'm sure you can get the party started again, you always get me going with your music!! |
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Don't reveal my secrets Brandon! There should be more in my repertoire in the near future. Anybody have questions for Shakelightly? |
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to the person who started this thread---i was the same as you an it just turned out i was closeted. that may be where you are. also, you could just be attracted to muscle. one thing you could do is become as muscular as possible, and get off to your own muscles---and/or find a girl who is into your muscles. i have a bodybuilder friend, straight, who j/o's to himself and he also has a girlfriend who is into his huge muscles. whatever you do, don't feel guilty. do what makes you happy for your values. being big, muscular, strong and healthy is good for confidence, discipine, and health. there is nothing wrong or shameful about it. and being attracted to it is not mainstream, but it's not exactly uncommon. people get embarrassed by it but you are perfectly ok keeping it private and just having private hot muscle sex with yourself and boys and/or girls. the main thing i wish i'd done when i was 20 was IDENTIFY what i really WANT and then GO FOR IT. i spent a lot of time worrying, being unhappy, judging myself... it's just sex. know what turns you on and accept it. if you feed it, you can get a lot of pleasure and stress relief. sex is only one part of life but to ignore your needs can make you sick or worried or stressed. good luck! __________________ keep working out, stay focused and you will achieve your goals in the gym! |
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Duh what? Well Sheena from Delhi, you have stumbled onto the wrong board because us muscle boys will not fulfill your desires. (What is with the spambots today? ) |
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Intelligent spambot perhaps? __________________ Blogger: http://whitepapermusclestories.blogspot.com/ Tumblr: http://whitepapermuscle.tumblr.com/ Wordpress: http://whitepapermuscle.wordpress.com/ |
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Now it's real spam!!! Please remove! |
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All of us mucle beast, especially those of us who love roids and growing bigger and stronger by the minute always get off over our own muscles and gains and get off over others who get off over our huge muscles..I cum without touching myself while injecting my juice and another load after I am finished and strike some poses while saying "F--K YES! Look at how huge I am! Feel those roids coursing through all this muscle feeding them! Helping them grow even bigger and insanely stronger!" Love it! I know of several others here who get off flexing and I hope many,many more do! I bet Jay Cutler, Branch Warren, Dennis Wolf and Ronny Rockle all do it and why shouldn't those huge beast do it! I love how Jay is always throbbing hard at the gym and on the stage 99% of the time for the last two years and he is very proud of it and loves showing it off while he hits pose after pose and his throbbing muscle cock jumps and flexes in his speedo and pointing up to his right! There is a video of Jay pumping up at the gym for a photo shoot and when he strips down to his briefs, he is rock hard! It's hot! He squeezes it, swats at it and tells the photographer he isn't posting it on line but he did and I know Jay loved it, he is my favorite and I know he gets into being a cock tease lol! If anyone wants to see the video, email me at [email protected] and I will send you the link! It's worth it! I shot 3 times the first time I saw it and it still makes me blow! Have a great weekend everyone! |
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My local "grow-cery" store is having a sale on Pepperidge Farm goldfish. For proper muscle building, should I get the cheddar gold fish, or should I try the whole wheat ones? For corn flakes, can I use the generic store brand sold in the barrels by the scoopful, or do I have to buy a name brand like Kellogg's? Can you describe the proper technique for dousing the poptarts in "noney"? Is it a dunking or more of a scooping motion! I hear that Jay Cutler dunks AND scoops his poptarts, which REALLY helped him add size! PLEASE write back soonest! The gamma rays are threatening to penetrate my special Reynolds Wrap Foil blocker hat. and I have to run out and buy some more foil! You can write to me, "Muscle Nut" c/o "The third cardbox box from the left", Under the bridge Whacksville, Universe |
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Yes, a great quote. I do have to say I am among the men here who gets off on muscle, but gets turned off by what we term in the army as "man-love". I have only had sex with women and rather enjoy it (okay, okay, I more than enjoy it). I could not fathom having sex with a man. |
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