The Evolution Forum

Go Back   The Evolution Forum > Bodybuilding > Training
Welcome, Anonymous.
You last visited: Yesterday at 11:53 PM

Notices

Training Tips, Techniques, and Routines.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Add to Minotaur's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 14th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Muscled Chub Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 339
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Minotaur is on a distinguished road
First deads in I-don't-know-how-many months

I don't mind revealing that I have a mental health problem... bipolar II/hypomania. I've been on Lamictal, a mood stabilizer; alprazolam for anxiety; bupropion for the depression. P-doc increased my Wellbutrin, took me off alprazolam (Xanax) and put me on clonazepam (Klonopin).
So why am I telling you this?

Because for as much time as I previously spent in the gym building my size and strength, I've been very sporadic over the past few months. Actually I've been blowing off the gym more than anything else.

So... The fog is lifting. I went to the gym yesterday morning and deadlifted for the first time in months. My best ever last year was 345 for 3-4 reps a couple of times. And I want that again. The first time I did it I was alone in the gym on a Saturday night (I have keys), took off my shirt, said "for Toby" (my cat who passed away... so sue me ), started to pull and let out the most blood-curdling Klingon howl as I pulled and locked out. I'm not usually a howler or yeller, but that time merited it.

Got nowhere near that yesterday, just 2 sets of 225 and one set of 245. I have 100 lbs to go to get caught up. But it will come back fast as long as I am smart about it. I just might alternate with rack pulls week to week. My bench and squat must be the suck also. I'll find out this week. I did 3 sets of 135 lb high pulls. That felt great. They're fun. I can't wait to go back.

I feel newly motivated to pound the weights and pack on the muscle. Part of the conflict has been trying to cut and lose the excess fat. but you know what.... ? It ain't gonna happen. I am not, never have been, never will be a bodybuilder. I am a powerlifter. I want to eat; I want lift. Big. And I've been holding myself back from that. And hey, if I have to have my pants let out a bit, or buy a some new ones, so be it. Though I'll try to keep that to a minimum.

No more stressing, the beast is out of the chute.

OK, so call this an early New Year's resolution.
__________________
Blanche: I don't really mind Clayton being homosexual, I just don't like him dating men.

Dorothy: You really haven't grasped the concept of this gay thing yet, have you?

Blanche: There must be homosexuals who date women.

Sophia: Yeah, they're called lesbians.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #2   Add to arpeejay's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 14th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,669
Thanks: 260
Thanked 1,305 Times in 370 Posts
Rep Power: 16
arpeejay will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to arpeejay
Lowgrade depression, in my case, but it definitely takes its toll.

Regardless, GREAT that you're back in the gym! Keep working at it and keep us posted because we love to hear stories of hot sexy men getting hotter and sexier! :-)

All the best & xoxo...

Richard
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #3   Add to Minotaur's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 14th, 2008, 04:30 PM
Muscled Chub Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 339
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Minotaur is on a distinguished road
Thanks.

Yeah, it's that low level background stress that grinds you down. My partner was in the hospital for almost a week. After all cardiac tests, which came out negative, the cause was ruled to be stress and anxiety, which we have in abundance. My best friend is in the same hospital this week for the same thing!
__________________
Blanche: I don't really mind Clayton being homosexual, I just don't like him dating men.

Dorothy: You really haven't grasped the concept of this gay thing yet, have you?

Blanche: There must be homosexuals who date women.

Sophia: Yeah, they're called lesbians.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #4   Add to wolfotehmoon's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 14th, 2008, 04:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 532
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 6
wolfotehmoon is on a distinguished road
Ugh, depression. >_> It's alternately gotten me in and kept me out of the gym. :/ I haven't been diagnosed with anything clinical, but I've seen therapists for extended periods since childhood, and a recent bout really fucked me up... I refuse to ever take drugs, though. Not just because of the weird changes they can make in your brain, but also because in the off-chance they work fine, I don't want to be dependent on them. But, eh...
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #5   Add to Minotaur's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 14th, 2008, 05:18 PM
Muscled Chub Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 339
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Minotaur is on a distinguished road
I know what you mean about the meds. There's pluses and minuses. I'm not wild about taking them, but they make a big difference in how I function. But I don't want to go on a defense of meds... everyone has to find their own way.

I'm not really sure what my point is, other than to share my re-awakening. I was even reading through my Rock Guitar for Dummies, and just in a page or two of a subject I was thinking "oh OK, I get it!" when in the recent past everything was a struggle.

And what I know is that I have an image and goal in mind, and I'm going for it.
__________________
Blanche: I don't really mind Clayton being homosexual, I just don't like him dating men.

Dorothy: You really haven't grasped the concept of this gay thing yet, have you?

Blanche: There must be homosexuals who date women.

Sophia: Yeah, they're called lesbians.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #6   Add to suma's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 17th, 2008, 08:18 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,660
Thanks: 11
Thanked 650 Times in 240 Posts
Rep Power: 12
suma is on a distinguished road
hey Minotaur,
I like your attitude about training, I'm a powerlifter myself. If that's you in the avatar , then you look fairly fit and lean, thumbs up.
also hope you conquer or at least manage your bipolar disorder, I think I've known some people who suffer from clinical mood imbalances , and it's such a terrible thing that often goes on for years undiagnosed.
I'm no Dr but I think it's good that you train for strength and lift heavy, because maybe you've experienced it too, the feeling of wellbeing and good mood that follows an intense heavy workout. Scientists say it's because of the adrenaline and testosterone that succreted when the body has to work so hard. The average gym workout won't do it tho, it's got to be heavy weights.
I truly believe that heavy weight training has beneficial effects not only on fitness, strength, muscle building, but psychological wellbeing and good mood as well.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #7   Add to brent's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 18th, 2008, 01:48 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: in more supportive forums than this
Posts: 2,124
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 14
brent has disabled reputation
Send a message via AIM to brent Send a message via Yahoo to brent
It's amazing how similar this thread is to my own life. I'd nearly stopped working out, totally depressed, and about a month ago I'd started on bupropion. I'm now back into the gym & trying to fix my eating too. I call action the antidepressant. The problem is that when you are down, you don't want to do anything, so you get lazier & more depressed... It becomes o vicious cycle.
__________________
God is in the rain.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #8   Add to xythan_shadow's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 18th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Writer and Lifter
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 484
Thanks: 0
Thanked 228 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 9
xythan_shadow is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to xythan_shadow Send a message via Yahoo to xythan_shadow
It is amazing how much a good friend can help in counteracting that. Just having someone there to kick your ass if you don't have a good reason for missing the gym is so helpful. I am overly grateful for mine.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #9   Add to inflated's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 18th, 2008, 04:18 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 412
Thanks: 0
Thanked 44 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 10
inflated is on a distinguished road
Deadlifts are by far my favorite exercise, they are a great mass builder, its easy to lift a lot of weight, its a fairly safe exercise, no spotters are needed, I could go on with reasons why I love deadlifting. Good luck to you and try to stay dedicated to the gym, its a great addiction.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #10   Add to Minotaur's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 18th, 2008, 06:42 PM
Muscled Chub Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 339
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Minotaur is on a distinguished road
Red face

Quote:
Originally Posted by suma View Post
hey Minotaur,
I like your attitude about training, I'm a powerlifter myself. If that's you in the avatar , then you look fairly fit and lean, thumbs up.
also hope you conquer or at least manage your bipolar disorder, I think I've known some people who suffer from clinical mood imbalances , and it's such a terrible thing that often goes on for years undiagnosed.
I'm no Dr but I think it's good that you train for strength and lift heavy, because maybe you've experienced it too, the feeling of wellbeing and good mood that follows an intense heavy workout. Scientists say it's because of the adrenaline and testosterone that succreted when the body has to work so hard. The average gym workout won't do it tho, it's got to be heavy weights.
I truly believe that heavy weight training has beneficial effects not only on fitness, strength, muscle building, but psychological wellbeing and good mood as well.
Thanks. Yes, that's me, but it doesn't tell the whole story. I definitely have a "bear belly". This is me currently...

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...15081408-1.jpg

I'm looking to increase my size and strength. I know I'll probably gain some more fat and I'll have to find a way to take it off. I lose very slooowly when I do at all.

The irony is that when I felt down, I'd blow off the gym. If my mind wasn't there, neither was I. Yet on the occasions I dragged myself in, I'd have a good workout and a totally improved outlook.

I've started a 5x5 routine I got from Dave Draper's site. I think it's a modified Bill Starr routine. I gave it a dry run tonight, and boy did I work! I think it will be a good routine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by brent View Post
The problem is that when you are down, you don't want to do anything, so you get lazier & more depressed... It becomes o vicious cycle.
Bingo!

I'm glad the bupropion is working. My increase in dosage seems to have helped a lot. I started at 150 mg, but am now at 300 mg, the standard dose.

It's been a long time since I've had workouts like these. It feels good.
__________________
Blanche: I don't really mind Clayton being homosexual, I just don't like him dating men.

Dorothy: You really haven't grasped the concept of this gay thing yet, have you?

Blanche: There must be homosexuals who date women.

Sophia: Yeah, they're called lesbians.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #11   Add to Minotaur's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 18th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Muscled Chub Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 339
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Minotaur is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by xythan_shadow View Post
It is amazing how much a good friend can help in counteracting that. Just having someone there to kick your ass if you don't have a good reason for missing the gym is so helpful. I am overly grateful for mine.
I've never had a training partner, and I think sometimes it would have been beneficial to have one. Like you said, sometimes you need someone to kick you in the ass and not pity you or cuddle you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by inflated View Post
Good luck to you and try to stay dedicated to the gym, its a great addiction.
Thanks... I plan to.
__________________
Blanche: I don't really mind Clayton being homosexual, I just don't like him dating men.

Dorothy: You really haven't grasped the concept of this gay thing yet, have you?

Blanche: There must be homosexuals who date women.

Sophia: Yeah, they're called lesbians.
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
  #12   Add to xythan_shadow's Reputation   Report Post  
Old December 18th, 2008, 10:04 PM
Writer and Lifter
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 484
Thanks: 0
Thanked 228 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 9
xythan_shadow is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to xythan_shadow Send a message via Yahoo to xythan_shadow
I am very happy with my lifting buddy. We both have the same goals, and in the gym that I go to, it seems rare. Plus, since he's a bit stronger and bigger than me, I'm able to push myself harder knowing I have a good spot. Plus, we feed off each other's energy (as long as the music isn't crappy). I know I wouldn't have made the gains that I have if I didn't have someone like him behind me.

I suggest everyone go out and find that lifting buddy that works for them
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message Quick reply to this message Thanks
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Remove Text Formatting
Bold
Italic
Underline
Wrap [QUOTE] tags around selected text
 
Decrease Size
Increase Size
Switch Editor Mode
Options


Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jack's Story johnd Post Your Muscle Growth Stories 21 August 21st, 2010 03:57 PM
30 pounds in six months indygary Muscle Growth Media 4 April 13th, 2007 10:00 PM
Jake chapter 1 rockhardmuscle1 Post Your Muscle Growth Stories 6 November 22nd, 2006 08:51 AM
9 months' progress OUstud82 Watch Me Grow 7 May 5th, 2004 08:47 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Addendum by archiver: This page was originally part of musclegrowth.org and exists as part of an overall archive under Fair Use. It was created on April 16 for the purpose of preserving the original site exactly as rendered. Minor changes have been made to facilitate offline use; no content has been altered. All authors retain copyright of their works. The archive or pages within may not be used for commercial purposes.