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 March 17th, 2009, 05:06 PM | |||
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| Post First Cycle PCT???? Hey guys, I am thinking hard about doing a first cycle. Have not decided if I want to do this yet, but i have decided if I do it to do something relatively clean and simple for a first (basically test with an optional d-bol kick start is what i see as a consensus beginner cycle.). One of the things I have not found a good recommendation for is for PCT after a first cycle. Any ideas? __________________ NSCA / ISSA Certified Trainer     |
| March 17th, 2009, 05:37 PM | |||
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| First PCT isnt always nessary for cycles. It would depend on what your running, amout etc. I know others will disagree with me but if you have a copy of anabolice 2006, 2007, 2008, you will see that it does say PCT is not always nessary. what coverns your cucle is your goal and your current stats. Also if your thinking of competing that it might be a l;ittl differen than if your just doing a bulk cycle. if you want more infor contact me. |
| March 17th, 2009, 05:38 PM | |||
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| you could also so a test( cyp) and a oral winny 20mg as a nice beginners cycel. |
| March 18th, 2009, 03:50 AM | |||
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| Be sure and take progress pictures for us, and best wishes on your journey! __________________ http://www.scott-safier.us "Stand firm for what you believe in until or unless logic or experience prove you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked the emperor is naked. The truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there's no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." Daria |
| March 19th, 2009, 12:17 PM | |||
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| I will Scott. Thanks. I do hope that it goes well. __________________ NSCA / ISSA Certified Trainer |
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| March 29th, 2009, 01:04 PM | |||
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| I agree to an extent with BigJoey that recovery is easier with some compounds than others, but in order to make the whole cycle experience as pleasant as possible, I would recommend doing a PCT to be safe. I'd suggest taking HCG @ 500iu/wk (one shot) for the duration of the cycle (to prevent testicular atrophy). Then I'd go for a simple Tamoxifen PCT: Day 1 100mg Day 2-11 60mg Day 12-21 40mg For the cycle itself, I would just go with a very basic Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate (or Sustanon) at 500mg/wk for 10-12weeks. Make sure you have enough tamoxifen or an aromatase inhibitor like anastrazole on hand in case you develop symptoms of gyno. |
| April 2nd, 2009, 11:44 AM | |||
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| Thanks again guys. I decided on a course to take, and with integrated several of your suggestions. I took some pre-pics yesterday for comparison. We will see how this goes. __________________ NSCA / ISSA Certified Trainer |
| April 7th, 2009, 07:56 AM | |||
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| BTW - I decided to keep a journal of my experiences doing this. Needless to say, it will bit private. But, if you would like to read and see what is going on with me and how things are going on a pretty much daily basis, send me an email or PM. I will send you a link. I would appreciate some of you who have experience being able to help me out along the way. Cheers guys. __________________ NSCA / ISSA Certified Trainer |
| April 23rd, 2009, 05:08 AM | |||
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| again to most people they think PCT is nessary. The cycle i suggested it is not nessary unless your blood work is showing you the have a higher than a normal range of estrogen then yea you would need PCT. otherwise NO |
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